The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Who Are The Fanatics? by Paul Craig Roberts

Everything related to politics in Cyprus and the rest of the world.

Who Are The Fanatics? by Paul Craig Roberts

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:23 pm

Paul Craig Roberts is my favorite columnist when it comes to international issues and particularly the Middle East. I’d like to share his article… “Who Are The Fanatics?” …with you.

To read more about Paul:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Craig_Roberts

To view the original article:
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=11560

Who Are The Fanatics?

President Jimmy Carter was demonized for pointing out in his book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, that there are actually two sides to the Israeli-Palestinian issue. Distinguished American scholars, such as John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt have suffered the same fate for documenting the excessive influence the Israel Lobby has on US foreign policy.

Americans would be astonished at the criticisms in the Israeli press of the Israeli government's policies toward the Palestinians and Arabs generally. In Israel facts are still part of the discussion. If the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, could replace Fox "News," CNN, New York Times and Washington Post, Americans would know the truth about US and Israeli policies in the Middle East and their likely consequences.

On September 1, Haaretz reported that Rabbi Eric Yoffie, the president of the Union for Reform Judaism, which represents 900 Congregations and 1.5 million Jews, "accused American media, politicians and religious groups of demonizing Islam" and turning Muslims into "satanic figures."
Rabbi Yoffie is certainly correct. In America there is only one side to the issue. An entire industry has been created that is devoted to demonizing Islam. Books abound that misrepresent Islam as the greatest possible threat to Western Civilization and seek to instill fear and hatred of Muslims in Americans. For example, Norman Podhoretz proclaims "World War IV: The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism." Daniel Pipes shrieks that "Militant Islam Reaches America." Lee Harris warns of "The Suicide of Reason: Radical Islam's Threat to the West."

Think tanks have well-funded Middle East programs, the purpose of which is to spread Islamophobia. Fear and loathing pour out of the Middle East Forum and the American Enterprise Institute.

In the US it is acceptable, even obligatory in many circles, to hate Muslims and to support violence against them. Pipes has been described as a "leading anti-Muslim hate propagandist." He is on record advocating the use of violence alone as the solution to the Muslim problem. This won him the endorsement of the Christian Coalition, AIPAC, and the Zionist Organization of America for appointment to the board of the United States Institute of Peace. President George Bush used a recess appointment to appoint this man of violence to the Institute of Peace.

Pipes advocates that the Muslims be beaten into submission by force, the view that has guided the Bush administration. To brainwashed and propagandized Americans, the Pipes appointment made perfect sense.
Podhoretz believes that Islam has no right to exist, because it is opposed to Israeli territorial expansion, and that America must deracinate Islam, which means to tear Islam up by the roots.

While neoconservatives, Christian Zionists, and the Bush administration embrace unbridled violence against Muslims, Lee Harris warns that America is much too tolerant and reasonable to be able to defend itself against Muslim fanaticism. America's "governing philosophy based on reason, tolerance, consensus and deliberation cannot defend itself against a [Muslim] strategy of ruthless violence."

Islamophobia overflows with such absurdities and contradictions. Harris tells us that the Enlightenment overcame fanatical thinking in the West, leaving the West unfamiliar with fanaticism and helpless to confront it. Harris, who fancies himself an authority on fanaticism, is deaf, dumb, and blind to Communism and National Socialism and is completely ignorant of the fact that neoconservative fanatics are the direct heirs of the Jacobins of the French Revolution, itself a fanatical product of the Enlightenment.
If Americans did rely on reason, tolerance and deliberation, they might free their minds of shrill propaganda long enough to consider the "Muslim threat." Muslims are disunited. Their disunity makes them a threat to one another, not to the West.

In Iraq most of the fighting and violence is between Sunni and Shi'ite Arabs and between Arabs and Kurds. If Iraqis were unified, most of the violence, instead of a small part of it, would be directed against the American troops, and the remnants of a defeated US army would have been withdrawn by now. However much Iraqis might hate the American invader and occupier, they do not hate him enough to unite and to drive him out. They would rather kill one another.

Iran, the current focus of demonization, is not Arab. Iranians are descended from the ancient Persian race. Indeed, Iran would do itself a favor if it changed its name back to Persia. For eight years (1980-1988) the Iranians and Iraqis were locked in catastrophic war with horrendous casualties on both sides. Despite its military exhaustion, Iraq was considered a "threat" by the American Superpower and was bombed and embargoed for the decade of the 1990s, one consequence of which was the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children.

Not content with the complete crippling of Iraq by the Clinton administration, the Bush administration invaded Iraq in 2003 and has been dealing more death and destruction to Iraq ever since.
Palestine has been under Israeli occupation for decades. Israel has simply stolen most of Palestine, and the remaining Palestinian enclaves are ghettos policed by the Israeli army.

The rulers of Saudi Arabia and the oil emirates are Sunni Arabs. They are more afraid of Shi'ite Arabs than of Israelis. Egypt, Jordan, and Pakistan are ruled by bought-and-paid-for American puppets. The Turkish military is also in the American pocket and suppresses any Islamist influence in the civilian government.

Afghanistan is a disunited country of tribal peoples, each holding sway in their area. The Taliban were attempting to unify Afghanistan, and the Bush administration's fear that the Taliban might succeed was the reason for the US invasion of Afghanistan. The US allied with the defeated Northern Alliance, in part a remnant of the old Soviet puppet government, and turned Afghanistan back over to warlords.

When the facts are considered – Muslim disunity and the absence of modern technology, navies, and strategic reach – the Bush/Cheney/neoconservative/Zionist propaganda that "we must fight them over there before they come over here" is such a transparent hoax that it is astounding that so many Americans have fallen for it.
To the extent that there is any Muslim threat, it is one created by the US and Israel. Israel has no diplomacy toward Muslims and relies on violence and coercion. The US has interfered in the internal affairs of Muslim countries during the entire post World War II period. The US overthrew an elected government in Iran and installed the Shah. The US backed Saddam Hussein in his aggression against Iran. The US has kept in power rulers it could control and has pandered to the desires of Israeli governments. If America is hated, America created the hate by its arrogant and dismissive treatment of the Muslim Middle East.

There is no such thing as Islamofascism. This is a coined propaganda word used to inflame the ignorant. There is no factual basis for the hatred that neoconservative Islamophobes instill in Americans. God did not tell America to destroy the Muslims for the Israelis.

In America today, blind ignorant hate against Muslims has been brought to a boiling point. The fear and loathing is so great that the American public and its elected representatives in Congress offer scant opposition to the Bush administration's plan to make Iran the third Middle East victim of American aggression in the 21st century.

Most Americans, who Harris believes to be so reasonable, tolerant, and deliberative that they cannot defend themselves, could not care less that one million Iraqis have lost their lives during the American occupation and that an estimated four million Iraqis have been displaced. The total of dead and displaced comes to 20 percent of the Iraqi population. If this is not fanaticism on the part of the Bush administration, what is it? Certainly it is not reason, tolerance, and deliberation.


Regards, GR.
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Postby Eliko » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:59 pm

Get Real, Paul Craig Roberts is undoubtedly a columnist who deals with the TRUTH when it comes to reporting on the issues he deals with.

Unfortunately, the majority of people tend to favour the statements made by political and military leaders, regardless of the fact that they KNOW them to be concocted nonsense cobbled together to suit their own purposes.

One needs to look no further than this forum to see how fond some members are of quoting the opinions of the scum that rules us, it is as if they feel obliged to accept that proven LIARS are preferable to those who speak the TRUTH.

Armed with a few well rehearsed opinions or speeches, they themselves feel qualified to comment on issues of which they have scant knowledge.

Unable to determine what is happening before their very eyes, they persistently argue on what information they have gleaned from the aforementioned sources.

God help us all, only the outcome is available to us, even THAT will be distorted in order to keep the hatreds festering among us.

Be careful how you present yourself my friend, if you opinionate contrary to what you consider to be foolish beliefs, you will be branded as a sympathizer with whatever faction is in opposition to the TRUTH of the matter.

In my humble opinion. :wink:
User avatar
Eliko
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3068
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:48 pm
Location: Cyprus

Postby tessintrnc » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:36 pm

Well said Eliko. To try and see both sides these days (or indeed seek the TRUTH) is to open oneself up to all sorts of accusations!!!!
Tess
User avatar
tessintrnc
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2743
Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:17 am
Location: Ozanköy

Postby Eliko » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:48 pm

tessintrnc, thank you for your moral support, you are obviously not influenced by the drolleries of our political and military leaders. :)
User avatar
Eliko
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3068
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:48 pm
Location: Cyprus

Postby tessintrnc » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:00 pm

No, I do not let politics influence me, like a child I am always asking "why"?
Tess
User avatar
tessintrnc
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2743
Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:17 am
Location: Ozanköy

Postby phoenix » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:55 pm

The fallout from generating such an Islamophobic ethos, is that Western liberals who are enlightened to such propaganda, see the struggle that Cyprus has with Turkey, as being just a part of this process. Cyprus is perceived as a Christian country that objects to the Turks, SIMPLY because they are Muslims.

It’s ironic then, that it’s the Turkish military, who are in the pocket of America to suppress Islamist influence, and who, hence, are part of the disease.

Pip-pip
Phoenix
User avatar
phoenix
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:47 pm
Location: Free From Forum

Postby phoenix » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:10 pm

And another thing . . . .

Everyone has a right to a homeland but the once homeless Israelis have become the dispossessors of the Palestinians. They are treating the Palestinians as once they were treated themselves. A homeland state for minorities should not be at the expense of others.

Suffering (real or hyped) in the past is not an excuse for causing present suffering and injustice.

I wonder who else (closer to home) is guilty of causing dispossession with a cry of justification from agitprop past misdemeanours?

Pip-pip
Phoenix
User avatar
phoenix
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:47 pm
Location: Free From Forum

Postby T_C » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:43 am

phoenix wrote:The fallout from generating such an Islamophobic ethos, is that Western liberals who are enlightened to such propaganda, see the struggle that Cyprus has with Turkey, as being just a part of this process. Cyprus is perceived as a Christian country that objects to the Turks, SIMPLY because they are Muslims.

It’s ironic then, that it’s the Turkish military, who are in the pocket of America to suppress Islamist influence, and who, hence, are part of the disease.

Pip-pip
Phoenix


:lol:

Ofcourse thats what it's about!!!!! What else did you think it was? :roll:

Would the division of gone on for 33 years if both sides were Christians? I very much doubt it...
User avatar
T_C
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:16 am
Location: London

Postby phoenix » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:50 am

Garagoz wrote:
phoenix wrote:The fallout from generating such an Islamophobic ethos, is that Western liberals who are enlightened to such propaganda, see the struggle that Cyprus has with Turkey, as being just a part of this process. Cyprus is perceived as a Christian country that objects to the Turks, SIMPLY because they are Muslims.

It’s ironic then, that it’s the Turkish military, who are in the pocket of America to suppress Islamist influence, and who, hence, are part of the disease.

Pip-pip
Phoenix


:lol:

Ofcourse thats what it's about!!!!! What else did you think it was? :roll:

Would the division of gone on for 33 years if both sides were Christians? I very much doubt it...


That's rubbish and you know it. :evil:
You clearly have not read the header otherwise you would not have made the remark . . . Or maybe you wish to fuel the propaganda?

Phoenix
User avatar
phoenix
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:47 pm
Location: Free From Forum

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:53 am

Just a friendly reminder that this thread is not about the CypProb... :)
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Next

Return to Politics and Elections

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest