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Road-Cameras in Cyprus... I'm happy they've failed!!!

Postby andricon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:43 pm

Hi guys, just wanted to share with you something that's made me quite sick. Those money-raking machines they've installed all over Cyprus, the speed and red-light cameras! It looks they've failed miserably according to todays press and compensation is going to be claimed from the company that installed them. I couldn't be happier to be honest with you.

It's very logical actually. People only cross a red light when they "think" nobody else is there, usually late a night. But why is the red light active when there is no traffic on the other lanes? In the UK there are sensors on the lights and it knows you are approaching, if nobody is coming from the other lanes the light changes from red to green, eliminating the need to cross illegally. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to be waiting at a red-light at 3am for 2 minutes while no cars are coming from the other lanes. You feel stupid. The Cyprus government could have eliminated the "stupid lights" we have in Cyprus by putting sensors on them solving the problem and massivley reduced wasted time and frustration in one smart move, by adding sensors. Instead they kept the dumb lights and added cameras to catch people who are just eager to get to where they're going. Like me most of the time.

I can go on and on but I don't want to bore you :D ....but one more thing... People don't cross a red-light illegally if there is traffic coming from the other lanes, they only do it if they are sat there like idiots waiting for a red light to turn green when CLEARLY there are no cars coming from the other routes. A sensor could solve this problem and massively eliminate illegal behavior on the lights. Our stupid government chose the money-grabbing low road and I'm SO HAPPY they've failed!
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Postby PARAMED » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:51 pm

In many EU countries traffic lights are set to AMBER FLASHING after a certain time, maybe midnight.

This means PROCEED WITH CAUTION, so nobody sits at red lights when roads in the vicinty are clear, similar to a GIVE WAY sign.

Seems to work, something else for Cyprus to adopt as a member, may even be a cheaper option than sensors.
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Postby Sotos » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:53 pm

A few months ago I passed with red and the camera flashed me. I didn't receive any fine. I guess it was because I didn't have number plates at the front of my car :lol:
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Postby skyvet » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:02 pm

In Florida USA (not sure about other states) it is legal to make a right turn when at a red light provided it is safe to do so. If this were the case here in Cyprus, obviously it would allow you to make a left turn as opposed to right as we driver on he left side of the road. It does not permit you to breach the red light for any other manoeuvre, but seems to work OK.
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Postby andricon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:06 pm

PARAMED: There is a road in Larnaka from K-Cineplex to the airport roundabout that's about 4-5km long. It has 6 minor (i would say insignificant) intersections that are controlled by lights. Most of the time you will be caught in a red light there and usually no cars are coming from these insignificant intersections. But the government doesn't realize that they are stopping thousands of cars FOR NOTHING, people who are just trying to get home or go somewhere. Adding sensors won't just save time, it'll probably increase air quality of the area and reduce noise levels too. I just don't get it!

Sotos: You are the tenth person i've heard of that got flashed, including me (whilel i was chatting on the phone too). But None of us have been sent a fine... weird?!?!
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Postby andricon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:09 pm

skyvet wrote:In Florida USA (not sure about other states) it is legal to make a right turn when at a red light provided it is safe to do so. If this were the case here in Cyprus, obviously it would allow you to make a left turn as opposed to right as we driver on he left side of the road. It does not permit you to breach the red light for any other manoeuvre, but seems to work OK.




There are so many cheap possibilities to solving this problem.... Us Cypriots had to go ultra-high tech and we've solved nothing. I remember a time when lights DID flash amber at night and accidents where a lot less back then!
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:09 pm

Sotos wrote:A few months ago I passed with red and the camera flashed me. I didn't receive any fine. I guess it was because I didn't have number plates at the front of my car :lol:

Well duh! :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:13 pm

I received two fines so far both sent via registered post! The fines could be sitting at the post office collecting dust because the post man can't be bothered delivering the sudden surge of hundreds of registered items...
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Postby Eliko » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:31 pm

A red light means STOP, red and amber mean STOP, amber only means STOP, green means proceed with caution (in case some fool doesn't recgnize the meaning of the colour codes), or GO if the road is clear.

Flashing amber lights already operate in Cyprus, they are useful in allowing free travel in all directions (providing the road is clear).

As to the 'Flashing Cameras', they are a necessary requirement at the moment since the driving standards here are a little below par.

Ultimately I am sure ALL the lights will be fitted with the sensors mentioned, give the government time lads and lassies, I am sure they have enough on their plates just now, some of the new roadworks deserve praise for a small nation such as we are. :wink:
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Postby andricon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:36 pm

Eliko wrote:As to the 'Flashing Cameras', they are a necessary requirement at the moment since the driving standards here are a little below par.


They are about as necessary as AIDS. Sorry Eliko but sensors cost a lot less than cameras, solve a lot more problems and reduce the dreaded BIG BROTHER Orwellian system we all hate so much! Cameras are only needed for speed violations but even then, shouldn't we first concentrate on good lighting on our highways before we rush to install high-tech gadgetry?
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