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Road-Cameras in Cyprus... I'm happy they've failed!!!

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Postby oranos64 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:39 pm

Eliko wrote:A red light means STOP, red and amber mean STOP, amber only means STOP, green means proceed with caution (in case some fool doesn't recgnize the meaning of the colour codes), or GO if the road is clear.

Flashing amber lights already operate in Cyprus, they are useful in allowing free travel in all directions (providing the road is clear).

As to the 'Flashing Cameras', they are a necessary requirement at the moment since the driving standards here are a little below par.

Ultimately I am sure ALL the lights will be fitted with the sensors mentioned, give the government time lads and lassies, I am sure they have enough on their plates just now, some of the new roadworks deserve praise for a small nation such as we are. :wink:



well said ....in the 3 years i have lived in cyprus ...i have seen some 26 accidents

the cameras are necessary as is on the spot fines,random drug searches as someone who works with the police ,,..i am shocked at some of the stupitdy of the drivers in cyprus .

example girl drying to answer phone ..goes through red light and into tree ...yesterday ....

I think britain road disciplines schemes are the best ....and the instructors the best ..

cyprus is lagging behind .....
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Postby raymanuva » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:49 pm

Arsinoe camera in particular distracts drivers a lot... there was this guy in front of me slammed on the brakes as soon as yellow came up... people watch their Speedometers instead on concentrating on driving... also as soon as everyone passes the light every single car speeds off. Its purely a money collecting machine for the government.
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Postby andricon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:20 pm

oranos64 wrote:the cameras are necessary as is on the spot fines,random drug searches as someone who works with the police ,,..i am shocked at some of the stupitdy of the drivers in cyprus .


I have to disagree with you there. The only thing stupid in Cyprus IS THE POLICE! Not the drivers. When someone is about to do something illegal the FIRST THING they think of is how likely am I to be fined/stopped/arrested. Usually the answer to that question is "very unlikely".... BUT when Cypriots drive into the British bases areas they become MODEL CITIZEN DRIVERS, perfect in every way because they know that they are entering a zero tolerance zone with constant checks by professional officers who WON'T listen to excuses. I've seen police officers drive by literally hundreds of violations, you name it, illegal parking/no helmets/no seat belts/no number plates/... I see this happening all day long. But one thing that amazed me was when the police in the UK stopped a bicyclist for running a red light. Seriously a bicyclist !!! I was right there and was amazed by their professionalism. They could have said "well it's a bicycle... who cares!" But they didn't! First thing that needs to change in Cyprus is the backward LAZY police officers and like clockwork the next freaking second, peoples attitudes will change too!
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Postby Eliko » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:27 pm

andricon, welcome to the forum and good luck with your postings. :)

I DID refer to the 'Flashing Cameras' as being necessary AT THE MOMENT, for the reason stated.

As to the sensors, I am sure that the system will be adopted in due course as it does make perfect sense to do so.

'The 'Camera System' also deals with the dangerous habit of 'Creeping' at junctions and must be kept operating for that (and other) reasons.

As to the lighting problems, I am sure they will also be dealt with in due course, some of the recent roadworks are a credit to the country, I think the minimizing of disruption (compared to other nations) has been praiseworthy considering the extent of them and the locations.

As to the 'BIG BROTHER' comment, I agree that the prospects are grim for us all, however, we are unfortunately powerless to combat the increasing use of surveillance cameras (unless we smash 'em all up) which is not a bad idea, but Nickable, so I suppose we will have to learn to live with them.

On the plus side, we can still go for a shite without fear of being observed, (in most cases). :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby devil » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:49 pm

What I have always said is that the Cyprus and Singaporean traffic laws and police should be exchanged to reach a good compromise. There is ZERO tolerance in S'pore and ZERO corruption. Attempt to suborn a cop there will earn you a month in the notorious Changi prison.
Examples:
Car parked legally, e.g., at a parking meter, and another car scrapes it: BOTH drivers get fined. Once you take a car onto the public highway, you are responsible for anything that happens just by being there. It is your choice.

Car parked illegally: automatically clamped and/or towed away. To release it for first offence cost 2 week's salary.

5 km/h over speed limit or run red light or enter limited zone without paying daily permit: fine 2 week's salary for 1st offence, 4 week's for 2nd offence, jail for 3rd offence.

20 km/h over limit: 1 month jail + licence confiscated for 1 year.

etc.

This may seem OTT, but it is a delight to drive there, as everyone knows the rule and obeys them predictably.
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Postby Eliko » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:01 pm

devil, God forbid that those laws should ever apply here, we will all end up in the 'Nick!'

On the other hand, we won't have to worry about aggravating the taxi drivers when we go to pick up our friends at the airports, they will all be there first. :wink:
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Postby raymanuva » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:01 pm

entering a zero tolerance zone with constant checks by professional officers who WON'T listen to excuses


I got fined by talking on the phone while driving on the salt lake... i mean, actual salt lake, totally off road in the middle of nowhere :)
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Postby 74LB » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:48 pm

devil wrote:What I have always said is that the Cyprus and Singaporean traffic laws and police should be exchanged to reach a good compromise. There is ZERO tolerance in S'pore and ZERO corruption. Attempt to suborn a cop there will earn you a month in the notorious Changi prison.
Examples:
Car parked legally, e.g., at a parking meter, and another car scrapes it: BOTH drivers get fined. Once you take a car onto the public highway, you are responsible for anything that happens just by being there. It is your choice.

Car parked illegally: automatically clamped and/or towed away. To release it for first offence cost 2 week's salary.

5 km/h over speed limit or run red light or enter limited zone without paying daily permit: fine 2 week's salary for 1st offence, 4 week's for 2nd offence, jail for 3rd offence.

20 km/h over limit: 1 month jail + licence confiscated for 1 year.

etc.

This may seem OTT, but it is a delight to drive there, as everyone knows the rule and obeys them predictably.


I must say it was a pleasure being in Singapore last year - I saw no road rage, no red lights jumped, no pedestrians running for their lives trying to cross a road, nothing. A model country indeed, although as Eliko implies we'd have to build more jails !
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Postby Eliko » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:18 pm

devil, whereas one can accept that the traffic laws in Singapore may have solved many of the problems WE face, there is one point that I feel is grossly unfair.

If one has parked legally in an appointed place and suffers damage to the parked vehicle, I can see no justification in presenting the innocent party with a fine.

Perhaps the 'ZERO' corruption policy is a result of the government's desire to ensure that all 'PERKS' belong to them, not a bad idea I suppose, all injustice and corruption in one place.

Unless you are mistaken on that single point, are you sure of that fact?, it does seem incredibly unfair to me. :wink:
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:28 pm

they started putting them in the high way also instead of having police cars
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