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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:02 am

Bananiot,

Are we to assume that people with the surname Mavrommatis, Blackeyed, are Karagiozides? Perhaps their ancestors displayed character traits that justified the name? Makes you think doesn't it!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:03 am

Bananiot wrote:It is an insult to call someone karagiozis, in everyday life. Really, we are surrounded by many garagiozides (plural of garagiozis) but we hope they will be sent home soon. I remember a few years ago a person was sued because he called a policeman that stopped him on the road garagiozis. He told the judge that he referred to the black eyes of the policeman but the judge would not buy it and duly gave him a hefty fine.



Yes it is often usen as 'comedian, joker someone you dont want to take too seriously. M' ore often than not it is an affectionate expression. You still have to use it wisely esp. when with people of authority.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:06 am

Bananiot wrote:Also in the Greek parliament in the 60`s there was an MP named garagiozis (his actual surname). During a debate an MP from a rival party told him to "stop the garagiozilikia" and garagiozis downed him with a powerful left that would make Mohamed Ali jealous.



I knew a Karagozlu very long time ago. He used to look like Robert Taylor. I wonder if it is the same gentleman. I will not give full name. He was well respected. It might even be him. I think he was also a good hunter.
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:08 am

Sure Nikitas, but perhaps the traits displayed were not merely the colour of the eyes but behaviour of the type that can be classified as "karagiozilikia". I think mavrommatis does refer to eye colour exclusively. Someone with black eyes is not necessarily a karagiozis.
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:09 am

The Greek parliament, as in Greece, deniz. A long way from Anglisides.
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Postby halil » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:12 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Also in the Greek parliament in the 60`s there was an MP named garagiozis (his actual surname). During a debate an MP from a rival party told him to "stop the garagiozilikia" and garagiozis downed him with a powerful left that would make Mohamed Ali jealous.



I knew a Karagozlu very long time ago. He used to look like Robert Taylor. I wonder if it is the same gentleman. I will not give full name. He was well respected. It might even be him. I think he was also a good hunter.


we have some families that they have Karagözlü surnames. Some of them frm Limassol , some of them from Çatoz (Serdarlı ). From where is your friend ?
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Postby Jerry » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:15 am

Thanks for the info on Garagoz (Garagooshe). The man I knew did indeed have black eyes. His claim to fame was the fact that Gilbert Harding gave him English lessons, he often used to the poem that starts "Under the village chestnut tree the village smithy stands.... "
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:17 am

Probably he was Karagoushis, which is different, I think.
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Postby halil » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:21 am

Bananiot wrote:It is an insult to call someone karagiozis, in everyday life. Really, we are surrounded by many garagiozides (plural of garagiozis) but we hope they will be sent home soon. I remember a few years ago a person was sued because he called a policeman that stopped him on the road garagiozis. He told the judge that he referred to the black eyes of the policeman but the judge would not buy it and duly gave him a hefty fine.


Hi Bananiot,
we used this word sometimes , who plays around and makes mess or he is funny or big headed.

we must meet again for our KELLE's .
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:22 am

Of course, kkele first and then whatever else.
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