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Why are so many Tc's getting ROC identity cards ?

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Postby zan » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:23 pm

phoenix wrote:
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CopperLine wrote:So, Phoenix, your strategy for coaxing a peace and settlement is to demand that TCs be tried for treason ?

Is it any surprise that TCs express reluctance even fear at what awaits any settlement when you post this kind of threat ?


Are you suggesting that the "TC"s fear that they may be found guilty?

So they hide behind the Turkish Army to avoid facing justice for their crimes?

Genuine repentance is what matters, and then we can all TRULY move forward.

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I think you will find that It is the "RoC' that has assumed that position...Just before the Annan Plan referendum they found that they will be liable to 50 billion pounds if unification happens and the last minute OXI happened...Now we are getting all this crap about why they really rejected the Annan plan. The world realises where the guilt lies my friend and so does the "RoC'.... :wink:


Zan we are not talking about the same thing ( :roll: ).
(See previous post, page 2)
It is the crimes against treason for cowardice in siding with a foreign country (Turkey), instead of protecting the RoC in 1974, that the "TC"s should face trial for.

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I am known for mixing things up so....What were we talking about again.....Oh yeah! The GCs siding with the Greeks in 63 and shooting their own neighbours from rooftops...That was it....And driving around in Trucks and cars rounding up TCs and either driving them out or shooting them down.....Did I get it right...Treason was the charge wasn't it...Is that worse than murder???
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Postby T_C » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:24 pm

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Garagoz wrote:Ha ha ha ha....if there was then all the people who wanted enosis should be tried for treason :P :P :P :P :P


Not quite... you forget the democratic referendum conducted in 1950 which resulted in 96% in favor of enosis.


and you forget the constitution you signed :wink: :wink: :P :P :P :P
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Postby phoenix » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:24 pm

Jerry wrote:[quote="CopperLine
(Incidentally does anyone know if there is in fact a crime of 'treason' in RoC law ?)


Yes there is but it is not mandatory and only applies at time of war.
Ref: Military Criminal Code and Procedure Law no. 40 1964[/quote]

Are we technically at war under the present occupation? (albeit under restraining orders from UN)

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Postby zan » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Garagoz wrote:Ha ha ha ha....if there was then all the people who wanted enosis should be tried for treason :P :P :P :P :P


Not quite... you forget the democratic referendum conducted in 1950 which resulted in 96% in favor of enosis.



I know you keep saying that democracy was invented by the Greeks but I did not know that it was this flexible.....I think you forgot to say that it was 96% of the GCs and not a single TC voted. The ballot boxes were in Churches. :roll: :lol:

No matter how many times this guy throws out the lead weight and hits bottom he still doesn't believe it and throws it out again...At this rate we are either not going to get anywhere or are going to go to ground on a reef.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Jerry » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:37 pm

phoenix wrote:
Jerry wrote:[quote="CopperLine
(Incidentally does anyone know if there is in fact a crime of 'treason' in RoC law ?)


Yes there is but it is not mandatory and only applies at time of war.
Ref: Military Criminal Code and Procedure Law no. 40 1964


Are we technically at war under the present occupation? (albeit under restraining orders from UN)

Phoenix[/quote]

I don't think war was declared but anyway it was a perfectly legal "intervention" wasn't it, as was the subsequent theft of all things Greek and the removal of thousands of Greek Cypriots.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:39 pm

zan wrote:
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Garagoz wrote:Ha ha ha ha....if there was then all the people who wanted enosis should be tried for treason :P :P :P :P :P


Not quite... you forget the democratic referendum conducted in 1950 which resulted in 96% in favor of enosis.


I know you keep saying that democracy was invented by the Greeks but I did not know that it was this flexible.....I think you forgot to say that it was 96% of the GCs and not a single TC voted. The ballot boxes were in Churches. :roll: :lol:

That's right but even if the whole island was to participate it would still have resulted way over 50% in favor for obvious numerical GC advantages. The referendum was seemingly aimed at figuring out if GC's really wanted enosis.

No matter how many times this guy throws out the lead weight and hits bottom he still doesn't believe it and throws it out again...At this rate we are either not going to get anywhere or are going to go to ground on a reef.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I've never been an enosis fan Zan but I do like to remind people of technicalities if relevant.
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Postby phoenix » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:40 pm

Jerry wrote:
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Jerry wrote:[quote="CopperLine
(Incidentally does anyone know if there is in fact a crime of 'treason' in RoC law ?)


Yes there is but it is not mandatory and only applies at time of war.
Ref: Military Criminal Code and Procedure Law no. 40 1964


Are we technically at war under the present occupation? (albeit under restraining orders from UN)

Phoenix


I don't think war was declared but anyway it was a perfectly legal "intervention" wasn't it, as was the subsequent theft of all things Greek and the removal of thousands of Greek Cypriots.[/quote]

So the Turks are using a loophole via terminology?

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Postby zan » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Garagoz wrote:Ha ha ha ha....if there was then all the people who wanted enosis should be tried for treason :P :P :P :P :P


Not quite... you forget the democratic referendum conducted in 1950 which resulted in 96% in favor of enosis.


I know you keep saying that democracy was invented by the Greeks but I did not know that it was this flexible.....I think you forgot to say that it was 96% of the GCs and not a single TC voted. The ballot boxes were in Churches. :roll: :lol:

That's right but even if the whole island was to participate it would still have resulted way over 50% in favor for obvious numerical GC advantages. The referendum was seemingly aimed at figuring out if GC's really wanted enosis.

No matter how many times this guy throws out the lead weight and hits bottom he still doesn't believe it and throws it out again...At this rate we are either not going to get anywhere or are going to go to ground on a reef.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I've never been an enosis fan Zan but I do like to remind people of technicalities if relevant.


If that is the case then you should also include the British and let them have a vote...After all they ruled the island at the time........What are the percentages then and who allowed you the vote in the first place :wink:
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Postby Jerry » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:52 pm

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Garagoz wrote:Ha ha ha ha....if there was then all the people who wanted enosis should be tried for treason :P :P :P :P :P


Not quite... you forget the democratic referendum conducted in 1950 which resulted in 96% in favor of enosis.


I know you keep saying that democracy was invented by the Greeks but I did not know that it was this flexible.....I think you forgot to say that it was 96% of the GCs and not a single TC voted. The ballot boxes were in Churches. :roll: :lol:

That's right but even if the whole island was to participate it would still have resulted way over 50% in favor for obvious numerical GC advantages. The referendum was seemingly aimed at figuring out if GC's really wanted enosis.

No matter how many times this guy throws out the lead weight and hits bottom he still doesn't believe it and throws it out again...At this rate we are either not going to get anywhere or are going to go to ground on a reef.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I've never been an enosis fan Zan but I do like to remind people of technicalities if relevant.


If that is the case then you should also include the British and let them have a vote...After all they ruled the island at the time........What are the percentages then and who allowed you the vote in the first place :wink:


Zan why don't you shut up and go to bed, you won't be able to get up in the morning if you don't.

Night night!
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:56 pm

Jerry wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Garagoz wrote:Ha ha ha ha....if there was then all the people who wanted enosis should be tried for treason :P :P :P :P :P


Not quite... you forget the democratic referendum conducted in 1950 which resulted in 96% in favor of enosis.


I know you keep saying that democracy was invented by the Greeks but I did not know that it was this flexible.....I think you forgot to say that it was 96% of the GCs and not a single TC voted. The ballot boxes were in Churches. :roll: :lol:

That's right but even if the whole island was to participate it would still have resulted way over 50% in favor for obvious numerical GC advantages. The referendum was seemingly aimed at figuring out if GC's really wanted enosis.

No matter how many times this guy throws out the lead weight and hits bottom he still doesn't believe it and throws it out again...At this rate we are either not going to get anywhere or are going to go to ground on a reef.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I've never been an enosis fan Zan but I do like to remind people of technicalities if relevant.


If that is the case then you should also include the British and let them have a vote...After all they ruled the island at the time........What are the percentages then and who allowed you the vote in the first place :wink:


Zan why don't you shut up and go to bed, you won't be able to get up in the morning if you don't.

Night night!



I will have nightmares if I do......... 8)
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