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[paliometoxo]

doesent sound to good... :/

[74LB]

any news on the meeting that happened today?

Talat desperately tried once more to side-step from the "8th of July" agreement, in order to "buy" more time and facilitate the Turkish objective of throwing more cement into more GC properties; hoping in this way that we will ever accept the ridiculous property provisions of the Annal plan and gift to them all our properties in the occupied north!

This is the outcome of today's meeting, as far as I understood it!

After signing the 8th july agreement the Turkish side realized there is no way way possible they would ever get something like the Annan plan. So they changed their mind.

Talat made it clear today he wants:

a)either a give and take on the Anan Plan (as if that was something we accepted!!! ) or
b) Face to face discussions that would either
i)collapse with no agreement on anything or
ii)Yield to some more concessions from the GCs with no final solution as it was always happening in the Denktashes years

Papadopoulos stressed he accepts nothing else that the 8 July agreement that will solve the Cyprob on a NEW basis.

Very good guys, but how about this from the Cyprus News Agency which gives Papadopoulos's view rather than your interpretations ...............

The Turkish Cypriot side has sought to bring about changes to a UN-brokered agreement, it endorsed a year ago, demanding the immediate start of talks and restricting the role of the committees, which should be set up in line with the July agreement, Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos has said.

Speaking after a three hour long meeting with the leader of the Turkish Cypriot community Mehmet Ali Talat, Papadopoulos also said that Wednesday`s meeting took place in a “constructive spirit”, adding that “contacts through the UN will continue to find a way out of this current difficulty.”

“Mr Talat wanted to introduce changes to the Gambarri agreement, he wanted talks to begin immediately without the committees or to restrict the role of the committees only to a technical level of noting down the titles of issues to be discussed, something which could not have accelerated the process but on the contrary it would have led to an early deadlock,” President Papadopoulos said on his return to the Presidential Palace, after his meeting with Talat at the residency of the UN Secretary General’s Special Representative Michael Moller.

Papadopoulos and Talat agreed on July 8 last year, in the presence of senior UN official Imbrahim Gambarri, to set up technical committees and working groups to discuss issues that affect the day to day life of the people and substantive issues of the question of Cyprus. Their top aides, Tasos Tzionis and Rashid Pertev, have held over 50 meetings in the past 14 months to this effect. So far, this has not been achieved.

The July 2006 agreement also provided for periodic meetings between Papadopoulos and Talat to help push the process forward.

“We discussed mainly the July agreement process, since this was the issue at hand. We insisted on its speedy and unconditional implementation because we believe this is a process that can push forward in a positive manner the talks towards a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus questions on a new basis,” the President pointed out.

“We believe that through our suggestions we would have shortened considerably the time needed leading to substantive talks and the solution of the Cyprus problem,” he said.

The Greek Cypriot side, he added, insisted a great deal that the committees should prepare the ground seriously and on condition that, as stipulated in the Gambarri process, progress is achieved at the level of the committees, the leaders of the two communities will meet periodically to negotiate the points of dissent which the committees will point out.

The President also said that Talat at today’s meeting raised other issues, not as part of the agenda but during the discussion.


http://www.cyprus-news.com/?gclid=CN-Mt6uCrY4CFQd3MAodYFX8Rg

[T_C]

[Nikitas]

Scanned the mainland Greek TV and Radio broadcasts. There was nothing about the meeting. Indicative of the priority Cyprus has in Greek daily life.

[T_C]

It's the same in Turkey Nikitas. Some Turks are absolutely clueless about Cyprus and Turkish Cypriots.

In Cyprus you very rarely see the TRNC flag without Turkeys next to it, yet in Turkey you're lucky if you see the TRNC flag at all!

[phoenix]

It's the same in Turkey Nikitas. Some Turks are absolutely clueless about Cyprus and Turkish Cypriots.

In Cyprus you very rarely see the TRNC flag without Turkeys next to it, yet in Turkey you're lucky if you see the TRNC flag at all!

Maybe they KNOW it's a PSEUDO-state

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Phoenix

[Get Real!]

WTF... Why did you change your alias? I was about to say "Hoi, that ain't your avatar!"

[T_C]

WTF... Why did you change your alias? I was about to say "Hoi, that ain't your avatar!"

"T_C" is soooo last season, I needed a change!!!!

[Pyrpolizer]

any news on the meeting that happened today?

Talat desperately tried once more to side-step from the "8th of July" agreement, in order to "buy" more time and facilitate the Turkish objective of throwing more cement into more GC properties; hoping in this way that we will ever accept the ridiculous property provisions of the Annal plan and gift to them all our properties in the occupied north!

This is the outcome of today's meeting, as far as I understood it!

After signing the 8th july agreement the Turkish side realized there is no way way possible they would ever get something like the Annan plan. So they changed their mind.

Talat made it clear today he wants:

a)either a give and take on the Anan Plan (as if that was something we accepted!!! ) or
b) Face to face discussions that would either
i)collapse with no agreement on anything or
ii)Yield to some more concessions from the GCs with no final solution as it was always happening in the Denktashes years

Papadopoulos stressed he accepts nothing else that the 8 July agreement that will solve the Cyprob on a NEW basis.

Very good guys, but how about this from the Cyprus News Agency which gives Papadopoulos's view rather than your interpretations ...............

The Turkish Cypriot side has sought to bring about changes to a UN-brokered agreement, it endorsed a year ago, demanding the immediate start of talks and restricting the role of the committees, which should be set up in line with the July agreement, Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos has said.

Speaking after a three hour long meeting with the leader of the Turkish Cypriot community Mehmet Ali Talat, Papadopoulos also said that Wednesday`s meeting took place in a “constructive spirit”, adding that “contacts through the UN will continue to find a way out of this current difficulty.”

“Mr Talat wanted to introduce changes to the Gambarri agreement, he wanted talks to begin immediately without the committees or to restrict the role of the committees only to a technical level of noting down the titles of issues to be discussed, something which could not have accelerated the process but on the contrary it would have led to an early deadlock,” this is my point b(i) President Papadopoulos said on his return to the Presidential Palace, after his meeting with Talat at the residency of the UN Secretary General’s Special Representative Michael Moller.

Papadopoulos and Talat agreed on July 8 last year, in the presence of senior UN official Imbrahim Gambarri, to set up technical committees and working groups to discuss issues that affect the day to day life of the people and substantive issues of the question of Cyprus. Their top aides, Tasos Tzionis and Rashid Pertev, have held over 50 meetings in the past 14 months to this effect. So far, this has not been achieved.

The July 2006 agreement also provided for periodic meetings between Papadopoulos and Talat to help push the process forward.

“We discussed mainly the July agreement process, since this was the issue at hand. We insisted on its speedy and unconditional implementation because we believe this is a process that can push forward in a positive manner the talks towards a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus questions on a new basis,” the President pointed out. This is my last paragraph. "We" in first sentense means Papadopoulos + Talat "we" in rest means "we the GC side"

“We believe that through our suggestions we would have shortened considerably the time needed leading to substantive talks and the solution of the Cyprus problem,” he said.

The Greek Cypriot side, he added, insisted a great deal that the committees should prepare the ground seriously and on condition that, as stipulated in the Gambarri process, progress is achieved at the level of the committees, the leaders of the two communities will meet periodically to negotiate the points of dissent which the committees will point out.

The President also said that Talat at today’s meeting raised other issues, not as part of the agenda but during the discussion.[/color]




http://www.cyprus-news.com/?gclid=CN-Mt6uCrY4CFQd3MAodYFX8Rg

For clarifications please see red coloured text above. It's amazing how the media totally destort what was actually said. If i haven't heard Papadopoulos live I would have never imagined.
Besides other commentators concentrated on what he said about NEW plan. Wonder why your quoted report says nothing about it.

[phoenix]

WTF... Why did you change your alias? I was about to say "Hoi, that ain't your avatar!"

"T_C" is soooo last season, I needed a change!!!!

Great, now everybody is doing it

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