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Turkey’s intervention on Cyprus

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Postby 74LB » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:34 am

phoenix wrote:
Kifeas wrote:LondonBoy, I had you down for a smarter person!

You said:

so Turkey should have waited for the UN to have its meetings and conclude its ok to go in before anyone intervenes ?


The UN Charter states clearly that no UN member country has the right to intervene militarily into the territory of another UN member country, without prior UN SC authorisation! This is not what I say, but what the UN Charter says, the Charter signed by all UN member states, including Turkey and Cyprus, and serves as the pinnacle of international law, the constitution so to say of the United nations!

Didn't Makarios in his speech on the 19th July more or less beg for the international community to act ?


Makarios in his speech on the 19th of July 1974 asked the UN SC to take action or measures, via a resolution, against the illegal intervention of the Greek Junta in Cyprus! Turkey, instead of waiting for the matter to be discussed by the SC and see what measures or action would have been forwarded by the competent body of the UN, rushed to prematurely and illegally invade Cyprus so that it "undercuts" any UN SC initiatives or effords; for the sole purpose of seizing part of the country for its own strategic and geo-political ambitions, using the safety of the TCs as a pre-text and the “treaty of guarantee” as an erroneous platform!

The coup is clearly an invasion from outside!


The coup was not an invasion from outside, because no troops came from Greece to carry it out! The coup was performed by the GC National Guard (Greek Cypriot soldiers,) acting under the orders of existing mainland Greek officers in its (NG’s) command! It was an illegal intervention from the Greek Junta, but it was not an invasion as such!

"The coup caused much bloodshed and took a great toll of human lives."


The coup cased the death of exactly 98 people, from both fighting sides! Most of them were killed during the attack of the National Guard (commando units) against the presidential palace on the 15th of July!

http://groups.msn.com/TheHellenicCommunity/yourwebpage10.msnw

Interestingly, this website also says the split of land ownership between GC & TC was 70/30, but that has been argued to death in other threads.


Really???

Well, you are free to tell this private individual that constructed this website that he is a fool!

If the TCs were the owners of 30% of the land in Cyprus, why your side then accepted in the Annan plan the return of 1/3 of GC properties within the 30% of the north TC state! You want to know the real TC ownership! It is 17.5% of the private land, which total private land is the 70% of the territory of Cyprus; or the owners of 12.3% of the total area of Cyprus! This is what the RoC land registry says, since 1960 that Cyprus gained its independence!


Kifeas, a very illuminating deconstruction.

I hope LondonBoy appreciates it too.

Phoenix


Glad at least you appreciated Kifeas's response - it doesn't take much to switch on your lights does it Pip Pip ?
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Postby phoenix » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:08 pm

'74LondonBoy wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Kifeas wrote:LondonBoy, I had you down for a smarter person!

You said:

so Turkey should have waited for the UN to have its meetings and conclude its ok to go in before anyone intervenes ?


The UN Charter states clearly that no UN member country has the right to intervene militarily into the territory of another UN member country, without prior UN SC authorisation! This is not what I say, but what the UN Charter says, the Charter signed by all UN member states, including Turkey and Cyprus, and serves as the pinnacle of international law, the constitution so to say of the United nations!

Didn't Makarios in his speech on the 19th July more or less beg for the international community to act ?


Makarios in his speech on the 19th of July 1974 asked the UN SC to take action or measures, via a resolution, against the illegal intervention of the Greek Junta in Cyprus! Turkey, instead of waiting for the matter to be discussed by the SC and see what measures or action would have been forwarded by the competent body of the UN, rushed to prematurely and illegally invade Cyprus so that it "undercuts" any UN SC initiatives or effords; for the sole purpose of seizing part of the country for its own strategic and geo-political ambitions, using the safety of the TCs as a pre-text and the “treaty of guarantee” as an erroneous platform!

The coup is clearly an invasion from outside!


The coup was not an invasion from outside, because no troops came from Greece to carry it out! The coup was performed by the GC National Guard (Greek Cypriot soldiers,) acting under the orders of existing mainland Greek officers in its (NG’s) command! It was an illegal intervention from the Greek Junta, but it was not an invasion as such!

"The coup caused much bloodshed and took a great toll of human lives."


The coup cased the death of exactly 98 people, from both fighting sides! Most of them were killed during the attack of the National Guard (commando units) against the presidential palace on the 15th of July!

http://groups.msn.com/TheHellenicCommunity/yourwebpage10.msnw

Interestingly, this website also says the split of land ownership between GC & TC was 70/30, but that has been argued to death in other threads.


Really???

Well, you are free to tell this private individual that constructed this website that he is a fool!

If the TCs were the owners of 30% of the land in Cyprus, why your side then accepted in the Annan plan the return of 1/3 of GC properties within the 30% of the north TC state! You want to know the real TC ownership! It is 17.5% of the private land, which total private land is the 70% of the territory of Cyprus; or the owners of 12.3% of the total area of Cyprus! This is what the RoC land registry says, since 1960 that Cyprus gained its independence!


Kifeas, a very illuminating deconstruction.

I hope LondonBoy appreciates it too.

Phoenix


Glad at least you appreciated Kifeas's response - it doesn't take much to switch on your lights does it Pip Pip ?


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With a little practice, you too may become less intractable. :D

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