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This is what Talat and the TCs want!

Postby Kifeas » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:30 pm

‘Not a single Turkish Cypriot sees the Turkish army as an invader’
By Simon Bahceli

Talat lays down the rules for tomorrow’s meeting

SELF-RULE, self-determination and the right of the Turkish army to intervene in Cyprus will not be up for discussion when Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat sits down with President Papadopoulos tomorrow to try and break the deadlock that has plagued relations between the two communities since the failed referendum of 2004, Talat said at the weekend.

“Turkish Cypriots have ruled themselves since 1963. Today, they are the owners of a state, a fully functioning administration. They will not sacrifice this,” Talat told a conference in the Turkish city of Izmir.

He also warned that Turkish Cypriots would not accept the removal of Turkey’s right to intervene militarily on the island from any potential agreement between the two communities, contesting that “apart from marginal groups… not a single Turkish Cypriot sees the Turkish army as an invader”.

Despite his seemingly tough words, Talat said he remained hopeful that a breakthrough could be found to break the deadlock that has reigned since the Greek Cypriot rejection of the UN’s last effort to solve the Cyprus problem in 2004.

“Maybe, if we can find establish a basis, a common understanding for peace on Cyprus, I can’t see a reason why we shouldn’t be able to solve the Cyprus problem,” he said.

Wednesday’s meeting will be the first between the two leaders since they last came together in July 2006 to thrash out what has become known as the July 8 agreement. Since then, there has been no top-level contact, and many of the points in the agreement signed that day have been widely ignored on both sides.

Whether tomorrow’s meeting will produce results remains uncertain. Indeed, Talat is all too aware that Papadopoulos faces an election early next year, and that it could be this alone that has brought him to the negotiating table. However, he also believes his counterpart’s possibly ulterior motives should not prevent the meeting from taking place.

“If the election is the trigger that starts the peace process, then so be it,” he said.

Talat also knows that he too is under the scrutinising eye of his community – a community that he and his supporters promised a swift solution to the Cyprus problem and EU membership – and that returning empty-handed from the meeting will do little to boost his popularity.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 5&cat_id=1

Is anyone still left to believe that it is Papadopoulos the obstacle to a solution?

Mr. Talat, you can only have the above on the basis of an 82:18 percent partition, therefore this is the only thing left for you to propose to Mr. Papadopoulos tomorrow, otherwise there is no point meeting with him at all!
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:58 pm

Didnt he say two weeks ago that he was going into the meeting with an open mind and no preconditions. Again we see the true face of the TC leader. Everyone keeps blaming Paps but now we Talats real agenda. Partition is what the TC's want. I say let's leave them in Isolation stop giving them free health care and stop them working on the greek side. Let's see how long they can last. I fed up to bits with all this shite. I regard myself as a moderate and wish for a solution. All I want is a solution that keeps everyone happy Greeks & Turks but it's obvious to me that Turkey will never allow this. Talat the puppet is in Turkey at the moment being given his orders on what he can and cant agree to. I see no point in the meeting at all.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:10 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:Didnt he say two weeks ago that he was going into the meeting with an open mind and no preconditions. Again we see the true face of the TC leader. Everyone keeps blaming Paps but now we Talats real agenda. Partition is what the TC's want. I say let's leave them in Isolation stop giving them free health care and stop them working on the greek side. Let's see how long they can last. I fed up to bits with all this shite. I regard myself as a moderate and wish for a solution. All I want is a solution that keeps everyone happy Greeks & Turks but it's obvious to me that Turkey will never allow this. Talat the puppet is in Turkey at the moment being given his orders on what he can and cant agree to. I see no point in the meeting at all.


You have to understand that if a country is not financially independent it looks towards the hand that feeds it. Talat is in the most difficult situation has he has to balance between Turkey our only ally and an aggressive GC administration hell bent on blocking anything that would contribute to our economy cause they feel it will make us want to unite with them. The GCs are really shooting themselves in the foot and pushing us closer to Turkey every day, allowing us economic independence will allow us more flexibility to move closer to GCs and understand their point of view but of course Gcs are not stupid and do not want this, they feel embargoes will make us yield to their demands, so cut off medical care and employment and maybe that will cause the international community to sit up and finally accept that a GC administration does not represent TCs or the whole of Cyprus.
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Postby Sotos » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:10 pm

Is anyone still left to believe that it is Papadopoulos the obstacle to a solution?


Yes i believe it. He is an obstacle to some "solution" that will partition Cyprus! Thats why they don't like him!
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:13 pm

Sotos wrote:
Is anyone still left to believe that it is Papadopoulos the obstacle to a solution?


Yes i believe it. He is an obstacle to some "solution" that will partition Cyprus! Thats why they don't like him!


This is an Ex Eoka man, author of the Akritas plan and a Turk hater to boot...well done you deserve him as he epitomizes your real inner thoughts.
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Postby Sotos » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:19 pm

We are all EOKA you fool. We fought to set our island free from British. He is no more Turk hater than the rest of us. Why should we like you? For stealing our lands? :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:22 pm

Sotos wrote:We are all EOKA you fool. We fought to set our island free from British. He is no more Turk hater than the rest of us. Why should we like you? For stealing our lands? :roll:


Thats what I said he is a reflection of the majority of GCs.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:Didnt he say two weeks ago that he was going into the meeting with an open mind and no preconditions. Again we see the true face of the TC leader. Everyone keeps blaming Paps but now we Talats real agenda. Partition is what the TC's want. I say let's leave them in Isolation stop giving them free health care and stop them working on the greek side. Let's see how long they can last. I fed up to bits with all this shite. I regard myself as a moderate and wish for a solution. All I want is a solution that keeps everyone happy Greeks & Turks but it's obvious to me that Turkey will never allow this. Talat the puppet is in Turkey at the moment being given his orders on what he can and cant agree to. I see no point in the meeting at all.


You have to understand that if a country is not financially independent it looks towards the hand that feeds it. Talat is in the most difficult situation has he has to balance between Turkey our only ally and an aggressive GC administration hell bent on blocking anything that would contribute to our economy cause they feel it will make us want to unite with them. The GCs are really shooting themselves in the foot and pushing us closer to Turkey every day, allowing us economic independence will allow us more flexibility to move closer to GCs and understand their point of view but of course Gcs are not stupid and do not want this, they feel embargoes will make us yield to their demands, so cut off medical care and employment and maybe that will cause the international community to sit up and finally accept that a GC administration does not represent TCs or the whole of Cyprus.


I do understand the position Talat is in but their is no need for him to make statements like the above just as he going into talks with Paps. Why cant he keeps his mouth shut go into talks on a positive note and see what happens. By his statement above do you believe he's going into the talks looking for a solution. As I said I would love a solution to the Cyprus problem but it isnt going to happen. If we were to lift the embargo on the TC's what do you think will happen partition for ever. I believe if the TC's handed back some of the occupied villages that werent being used this would be a goodwill gesture which will then allow us to start partitaly lifting the embargo's maybe allow flights and sea ports to be opened to international traffic. Then we can start talking about the rest of the issues such as greeks being allowed to start going back to their property's in the North.

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Postby Sotos » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:25 pm

Yes he reflects our will to fight for what is ours. And your Ali Toilet is a reflection of your kind of thieves who want to steal our land!!
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Re: This is what Talat and the TCs want!

Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:39 pm

Talat wrote:

“apart from marginal groups… not a single Turkish Cypriot sees the Turkish army as an invader”.




Since when a "marginal group" makes less than one person when he says the following " “… not a single Turkish Cypriot sees the Turkish army as an invader”.

Must be something wrong with the translation. Since he was speaking in Izmir, my guess is, he was talking in "Cypriot Turkish".
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