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This is what Talat and the TCs want!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:44 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
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GeorgeV97qaue wrote:Didnt he say two weeks ago that he was going into the meeting with an open mind and no preconditions. Again we see the true face of the TC leader. Everyone keeps blaming Paps but now we Talats real agenda. Partition is what the TC's want. I say let's leave them in Isolation stop giving them free health care and stop them working on the greek side. Let's see how long they can last. I fed up to bits with all this shite. I regard myself as a moderate and wish for a solution. All I want is a solution that keeps everyone happy Greeks & Turks but it's obvious to me that Turkey will never allow this. Talat the puppet is in Turkey at the moment being given his orders on what he can and cant agree to. I see no point in the meeting at all.


You have to understand that if a country is not financially independent it looks towards the hand that feeds it. Talat is in the most difficult situation has he has to balance between Turkey our only ally and an aggressive GC administration hell bent on blocking anything that would contribute to our economy cause they feel it will make us want to unite with them. The GCs are really shooting themselves in the foot and pushing us closer to Turkey every day, allowing us economic independence will allow us more flexibility to move closer to GCs and understand their point of view but of course Gcs are not stupid and do not want this, they feel embargoes will make us yield to their demands, so cut off medical care and employment and maybe that will cause the international community to sit up and finally accept that a GC administration does not represent TCs or the whole of Cyprus.


I do understand the position Talat is in but their is no need for him to make statements like the above just as he going into talks with Paps. Why cant he keeps his mouth shut go into talks on a positive note and see what happens. By his statement above do you believe he's going into the talks looking for a solution. As I said I would love a solution to the Cyprus problem but it isnt going to happen. If we were to lift the embargo on the TC's what do you think will happen partition for ever. I believe if the TC's handed back some of the occupied villages that werent being used this would be a goodwill gesture which will then allow us to start partitaly lifting the embargo's maybe allow flights and sea ports to be opened to international traffic. Then we can start talking about the rest of the issues such as greeks being allowed to start going back to their property's in the North.

What do you think?


Your side will never agree to direct flights or lifting of embargoes or GCs returning to live under TC administration. You can claim back your property now or ask for compensation which a few brave GCs have done but they are scared shitless from being persecuted by your ho so (not)European stand point. No side is white and I still stand by the ideology that GCs do not want a solution they have 90% of what they want why risk this for a few silly GC refugees?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:49 pm

Sotos wrote:Yes he reflects our will to fight for what is ours. And your Ali Toilet is a reflection of your kind of thieves who want to steal our land!!


Your land vs our recognition...choice is yours.
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Postby pantheman » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:09 pm

I don't think tomorrows meeting should take place with Talat.

They should cut out the middle man as he has no real say and lets deal directly witht the real crooks.

Get the general here Burk...... (sorry about spelling, but you know who i mean) and lets have a meeting with him. Because he is the one who is going to make the decisions round here.

Yes you can call yourselves a state, a pseudostate, and you can dream of having self determination, and the rest of the clap trap, but inside you all know as well as we do, that Talat has no AUTHORITY on ANY decisions regarding the cyprus problem.


Tomorows planned meeting is a farce really. Someone just please tell me the difference between tomorrows meeting and the 8 July meeting that took place last year where the turks actually agreed to do certain things. Where are the results of those actions ? Anyone ?? No , didn't think so. Thats the net sum of whats going to come out of tomorrows meeting, a few false handshakes for the photo ops and SFA else.

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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:11 pm

Well said mate. You hit the nail on the head. TC's are losing Cyprus to Turkey. You better wake up before it's to late. The Turks from Turkey already out number you. Before you know it you will be second class citizens in your own mini state.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:39 pm

More arsonist /incendiary comments by M.A. Talat!

It is obvious that he wants to ignite and blow up tomorrow’s meeting, because he doesn’t want a solution! He is a disguised partitionist, and then, look at him trying to blame it on Papadopoulos again! The mask has long fallen, M.A. Talat!

TRNC's Talat: "The Greek Cypriots want to rule Cyprus"

04/09/2007 11:06:04

The Greek Cypriot administration's idea of "solving" the Cyprus issue is to absorb the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) into itself, said TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat yesterday.

http://www.dunyagazetesi.com.tr/news_di ... dept_id=87
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Postby phoenix » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Sotos wrote:Yes he reflects our will to fight for what is ours. And your Ali Toilet is a reflection of your kind of thieves who want to steal our land!!


Your land vs our recognition...choice is yours.



Okay. .. .
We hereby recognise you as violent warmongers, that rape and pillage and then blackmail us.

Now fulfil your part of the bargain. . . Give us the land back.

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Postby 74LB » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:19 pm

Kifeas wrote:More arsonist /incendiary comments by M.A. Talat!

It is obvious that he wants to ignite and blow up tomorrow’s meeting, because he doesn’t want a solution! He is a disguised partitionist, and then, look at him trying to blame it on Papadopoulos again! The mask has long fallen, M.A. Talat!

TRNC's Talat: "The Greek Cypriots want to rule Cyprus"

04/09/2007 11:06:04

The Greek Cypriot administration's idea of "solving" the Cyprus issue is to absorb the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) into itself, said TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat yesterday.



http://www.dunyagazetesi.com.tr/news_di ... dept_id=87


The complete article says ...............

]"The Greek Cypriot administration's idea of "solving" the Cyprus issue is to absorb the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) into itself, said TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat yesterday"

"What is required in Cyprus is an infrastructure where peace can take shape," he told a conference in Bergama, Izmir. "The Greek Cypriots want to rule Cyprus. We have to find an administrative system which will solve our problems through (reaching) an agreement. Those who will do this are politicians. If there was an agreement, then we could bring people together. When Greek Cypriot administration leader Tassos Papadopoulos spoke at the UN General Assembly about solving the Cyprus problem, he stated that Cyprus should unite through osmosis. This means the weaker side joining the strong mass. The Greek Cypriots' solution is to assimilate Northern Cyprus to southern Cyprus."


If 'absorbing the TRNC' is not the aim, then all Papadopoulos has to do is convince Talat and then they move onto another point to discuss. I don't really see anything inflamatory about the remark, although imo it would have been better not to say anything public until after the meeting(s).
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Re: This is what Talat and the TCs want!

Postby 74LB » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:24 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Talat wrote:

“apart from marginal groups… not a single Turkish Cypriot sees the Turkish army as an invader”.




Since when a "marginal group" makes less than one person when he says the following " “… not a single Turkish Cypriot sees the Turkish army as an invader”.

Must be something wrong with the translation. Since he was speaking in Izmir, my guess is, he was talking in "Cypriot Turkish".


My interpretation of this sentence is that 'aside from the marginal groups', then not a single TC sees the army as an invader'.
So it does make sense, although I can easily see how it can be confusing.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:Didnt he say two weeks ago that he was going into the meeting with an open mind and no preconditions. Again we see the true face of the TC leader. Everyone keeps blaming Paps but now we Talats real agenda. Partition is what the TC's want. I say let's leave them in Isolation stop giving them free health care and stop them working on the greek side. Let's see how long they can last. I fed up to bits with all this shite. I regard myself as a moderate and wish for a solution. All I want is a solution that keeps everyone happy Greeks & Turks but it's obvious to me that Turkey will never allow this. Talat the puppet is in Turkey at the moment being given his orders on what he can and cant agree to. I see no point in the meeting at all.



It would be better to wait and see what will be said and not what a journalist says Talt will say. At the moment it is all 'hearsay'. Lets not jump the gun and lets hope something comes out of it. If the journalist is right, then we can all jump up and down till the floor collapses.OK?
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:57 pm

and ehre we are talkign about two so called leaders of cyprus who fly around in private jets stay in the best hotels screw the best hookers and then go to lunch together laugh and joke like long lost friends and then they come back and tell us they could not come to an agreement...................do you people not realise that our so called leaders are actualy friends as well as the mainland turks and greeks they are great friends, if they were not why woudl they always throw parties at each others embassies and entertain each other why do they do billions of pounds worth of bussiness together, has nobody asked these question ....................when it comes to cyprus they cannot reach an agreement, the reason being is simple cyprus in reality has nothign to do with the mainland except fro the fact we speak their lanaguages that is the only thing we have in common with them...................................to believe that our roots are from athens and ankara is like a brain surgean operation on himself thats how silly it all is......................... but who questions these things. who dares to come out of the brainwashed mind of theirs and say hey this guy might just have apoint here lol
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