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[Nikitas]

Get Real,

I do not try to look for a distinct Cypriot race to justify being a Cypriot. Nor am I going into mental acrobatics about the Cypriot dialect to claim I speak a different language. Ethnically I am Greek. My nationality is Cypriot, I am proud of both aspects of my status, and when we sort out our problem I will have no problem swearing primary allegiance to Cyprus. Any other way would be hypocrisy for me.

[Filitsa]

And??? Conclusion??? Is this our problem today? That "in the Greek scheme of things Cyprus was never considered equal?"

It exists today, but it lacks the impact it had. In fact, the impact today is negligible.

[phoenix]

Or by some miracle we wake up one day and realise we are actually a Cypriot island, where ethnic Greeks, Turks and others can live free of mainlander bullshit. And then we kick out bums who alter our history and promote division and indulge in crappy games like altering village names and other such petty shit.

We will then manage to exploit our strategic position for our own selfish aims. As opposed to everyone else's "noble aims" and we will make a pile of money on top.

Now that would be internal synergy? Intercommunal interfacing? Cypriot bambesia, you pick the name.

Excellent post Nikitas... you're gradually earning your way into the "A" team!

Here's the name you've been looking for... CYPRIOT NATIONALISM!

Nkitas, can you put your pre-conceived views to one side for a while. Need you to return to logical-mode.

You've jumped the gun a bit with the power that Cyprus will eventually have so that it can behave as "bad" as everybody else.

How FAR can we go in removing our Greek influences before we press the self-destruct button (bit like me with this thread)?

And Get Real!, how can we brand "CYPRIOT NATIONALISM" such that it doesn't sound too unfriendly?

Pip-pip
Phoenix

[Get Real!]

Get Real,

I do not try to look for a distinct Cypriot race to justify being a Cypriot. Nor am I going into mental acrobatics about the Cypriot dialect to claim I speak a different language. Ethnically I am Greek. My nationality is Cypriot, I am proud of both aspects of my status, and when we sort out our problem I will have no problem swearing primary allegiance to Cyprus. Any other way would be hypocrisy for me.

Answer this question please Nikitas. Who lived on Cyprus between the years 8,500BC and 1,600BC?

[miltiades]

Get Real,

I do not try to look for a distinct Cypriot race to justify being a Cypriot. Nor am I going into mental acrobatics about the Cypriot dialect to claim I speak a different language. Ethnically I am Greek. My nationality is Cypriot, I am proud of both aspects of my status, and when we sort out our problem I will have no problem swearing primary allegiance to Cyprus. Any other way would be hypocrisy for me.

If we all swore our allegiance to Cyprus first and foremost . we would be nearing the day when our island would be united as one , the home of the Cypriot RACE.

[Kifeas]

Get Real,

I do not try to look for a distinct Cypriot race to justify being a Cypriot. Nor am I going into mental acrobatics about the Cypriot dialect to claim I speak a different language. Ethnically I am Greek. My nationality is Cypriot, I am proud of both aspects of my status, and when we sort out our problem I will have no problem swearing primary allegiance to Cyprus. Any other way would be hypocrisy for me.

Very well placed!!!

[Kifeas]

Get Real,

I do not try to look for a distinct Cypriot race to justify being a Cypriot. Nor am I going into mental acrobatics about the Cypriot dialect to claim I speak a different language. Ethnically I am Greek. My nationality is Cypriot, I am proud of both aspects of my status, and when we sort out our problem I will have no problem swearing primary allegiance to Cyprus. Any other way would be hypocrisy for me.

Answer this question please Nikitas. Who lived on Cyprus between the years 8,500BC and 1,600BC?

Your question is pointless, Get_Real! It doesn't add up anything to what Nikitas is trying to say! What he said is quite sufficient and very accurate!

[phoenix]

I am not playing Devil’s advocate with this, because I know how deep the wounds are from the betrayal by the Greek Junta, and maybe various aspects of this point have been covered before, but I just need a little tweaking before I fully embrace the fancy that Cyprus can eliminate Turkish influence entirely alone.

The Synergy Between the Greeks and Cypriots.

. . Cypriot civilization was progressing with a formidable vibrancy in the millennia BEFORE the Ancient Greeks even set foot on Cyprus.

But this serendipitous find by the Greeks, was doubtless, also of monumental significance to the Native Cypriots.
The landmark injection of Greek cultures (Mycenaean, Achaean, Macedonian, Hellenistic, Byzantine) into Cyprus caused a powerful synergistic effect that has made the sum of the whole, magnitudes greater than the mere sum of the two separate parts. This powerful amalgamation helped shake off countless invaders .

We are today, however, still in the midst of the most recent invasion. Turkey’s honed skill of divide-and-rule, is perfectly suited to the rapid dissemination systems available today. It is my perceived notion, that Turkish propaganda’s task is to turn what was once our strength, into a weakness, by erosion of PART of our identity.

Cyprus is not another Greek island. Established fact .

But let’s not go to the other extreme and become apologists for our inextricable linkage with the Greek bloodline.

Otherwise, Cyprus may just become, another Turkish island.

Right!!!
Can you now translate to us what you have just been talking about!

Sorry Kifeas, I would welcome your input.

Basically I am just saying, Cyprus did ok in the past against invaders whilst it maintained Greek influences i.e. working together.

Can we manage to stand alone against outside forces or will we lose all vestiges of our past and be manipulated by Turkey....

(something like that).

Pip-pip
Phoenix

[Get Real!]

And Get Real!, how can we brand "CYPRIOT NATIONALISM" such that it doesn't sound too unfriendly?

Unfortunately some elements in history have associated nationalism with violence and have thus stained an otherwise great word. According to a popular online dictionary “nationalism” means…

1.Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
2.The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
3.Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.

I see no problem with the above…

[Get Real!]

Get Real,

I do not try to look for a distinct Cypriot race to justify being a Cypriot. Nor am I going into mental acrobatics about the Cypriot dialect to claim I speak a different language. Ethnically I am Greek. My nationality is Cypriot, I am proud of both aspects of my status, and when we sort out our problem I will have no problem swearing primary allegiance to Cyprus. Any other way would be hypocrisy for me.

Answer this question please Nikitas. Who lived on Cyprus between the years 8,500BC and 1,600BC?

Your question is pointless, Get_Real! It doesn't add up anything to what Nikitas is trying to say! What he said is quite sufficient and very accurate!

Perhaps you might like to answer it...