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Eurovision Song Contest 2005

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Postby magikthrill » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote: Its like the pathetic voting between Greece and Cyprus, Europe boos hisses and laughs at you yet you are oblivous to this and continue


please viewpoint. thats what eurovision is. All the former soviet countries vote for each other, the former yugoslavia countries vote for each other and likewise cyprus and greece vote for each other.

maybe you should send a letter to Eurovision claiming its not fair to vote based on individual majority but on a community majority so you're votes wont be overshadowed by the ridiculous GCs who only know to vote for Greece.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:28 pm

Dear magikthrill
You still dont get it, by all means let them vote each other we can understand that but 12 points to each other every year, just come on its just so stupid and makes Cyprus and Greece the laughing stock off paticipating countries :lol:
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Dear magikthrill
You still dont get it, by all means let them vote each other we can understand that but 12 points to each other every year, just come on its just so stupid and makes Cyprus and Greece the laughing stock off paticipating countries :lol:


no i dont think you get it. i am telling you thats how all eurovision countries act. at least those who have other political/social affilitions with other countries.

just because you see a dumbass anglosaxon commenting sarcastically on the votes cyprus and greece get that doesnt make them the laughing stock. this is what everyone expects.

regardless though, i do agree that a TC should have been sent to Eurovision at least as a symbolic gesutre even if he/she wasn't the best one of the bunch.
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Postby metecyp » Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:40 pm

magikthrill wrote:regardless though, i do agree that a TC should have been sent to Eurovision at least as a symbolic gesutre even if he/she wasn't the best one of the bunch.

No I don't agree with this. Why should a TC go to the Eurovision if he/she isn't the best? I think a bicommunal group should be sent to the Eurovision not just as a symbolic gesture but because a bicommunal group would represent Cyprus and its people best.
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Postby Othellos » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Othellos, practice what you preach, then I will start to clearly see that the south a truely what you make out it is.

For the record, Viewpoint, I am not "preaching" anything. I am merely pointing out that it is hypocritical to try and built a "case of GC racism" based on who represents Cyprus at the Eurovision song contest, while ignoring the very real, sad and totally racist fact that thousands of GCs are being denied the right to exist in their ancestral homes for the last 30+ years and that this injustice is to continue for many of them even after a solution. In any case, I have never seen any TC politician complaining about the Eurovision contest, but in case I am wrong I would be interested to know.

Viewpoint wrote:The issue was promoting harmony via music between our communities no more no less, if Cyprus has competed on 25 occassions can you confirm how many "Cypriots" have competed with a different ethnic backround to yours?? 20 Greek Cypriots 4 Turkish Cypriots 1 Maronite??? dont think so some how.

From my previous post it should be obvious to you that I have never cared much about the Eurovision contest. I am therefore in no position to know the answers to what you ask above, let alone to "confirm" anything. All I know is that last year, everyone around me were calling as many times as they could to vote for Sakis Rouvas. I thought that the whole thing was amusing and silly :)

Viewpoint wrote:Its like the pathetic voting between Greece and Cyprus, Europe boos hisses and laughs at you yet you are oblivous to this and continue on a blinkered course which confirms what im trying to say here in this thread.

This is one of the reasons why the Eurovision song contest is a big fiasco in my opinion. Btw, other countries do it also: the Scaninavians, The Baltic states, Turkey and Bosnia etc.... What I find interesting in your post though is this: while it is unacceptable for you the fact that Greece and Cyprus exchange their 12 points every year regardless of how good or bad their songs are, at the same time you think it is OK to send a music group from Cyprus which will be primarily formed upon the ethnic background of its members and not their music skills. If you genuinely care about good music then the ethnic background of the performers should not be an issue, don't you think?

Viewpoint wrote:Wouldnt it be fantastic if everyone agreed for a change that maybe one year we can send a joint effort, this year being the 50th was a very good opportunity missed.

Sure, why not, especially if the song is good enough? Not to mention that by doing that Cyprus will probably be getting Turkey's 12 points as well. The question is, are you prepared to accept TC singers performing on stage under the Cypriot Flag?

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Postby cannedmoose » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:02 pm

magikthrill wrote:just because you see a dumbass anglosaxon commenting sarcastically on the votes cyprus and greece get that doesnt make them the laughing stock. this is what everyone expects.


A slightly harsh comment thrill... I hope this wasn't aimed at all anglosaxons :P
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:13 pm

lol. i was talking about the british host who is kinda funny but in the laughing at him not with him sense of funny.
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Postby cannedmoose » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:19 pm

magikthrill wrote:lol. i was talking about the british host who is kinda funny but in the laughing at him not with him sense of funny.


Disrespecting Terry Wogan :shock: Image

The man is obviously a living god, just look at him... and sorry to correct you but he's not anglosaxon, he's actually a Celt (Irish) :P
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:24 pm

my deepest apologies then. but arent celt considered anglosaxon? i think they're languge is under that branch too but maybe im wrong.

lol never mind. im way off topic. i cant delete this post though .
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:55 pm

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no i dont think you get it. i am telling you thats how all eurovision countries act. at least those who have other political/social affilitions with other countries.


Yes while I agree this goes on, no country however no matter how well linked to each other never gives the other country 12 points year after year after year after year, cant they for a change give each other 3 or 10? dont you guys hear all the boos and laughter at your expense every year, they think you are a joke. But its no suprise with the attitude you are dispalying here trying to substantiate the ridiculous.

Othellos I see where you are trying to drag the issue which has been argued in many other threads, go and vent your views there.

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No I don't agree with this. Why should a TC go to the Eurovision if he/she isn't the best? I think a bicommunal group should be sent to the Eurovision not just as a symbolic gesture but because a bicommunal group would represent Cyprus and its people best.


I agree that the best should be sent but as things are made to order like this years entry, the singers could have been from both communities singing a song selected by the a jury or public and then we could have Greek Cypriots for another 25 years. :lol:
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