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Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:33 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:You don't have to be born in Cyprus to be a True Cypriot. And you are no "True Cypriot" because a True Cypriot is also a Hellene just as much as a Cretin is.

Are you trying to accommodate your non-Cypriot status?

Why don't you tell everyone how you and Cyprus are "related"... :lol:


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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:47 am

Just wondering if anyone knows of a Greek mainlander Millionaire , and there are quite a few in the world , who has donated to a Cypriot Charitable organization . I know Onasis gave sweet fa , I also know that the Lanitis Cypriot family have donated huge sums of money , recently to the Limassol Cancer fund which benefited enormously for the care of cancer sufferers and their families.
I'm just wondering if there has ever been a Greek , mainland , tycoon who gave a little to Cypriot charities , I do not know of any but someone must know , please let us know of any such magnanimous gesture !!
Im sure that Oracle must have some information on the charitable activities of the Greek tycoons.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:02 am

miltiades wrote:Just wondering if anyone knows of a Greek mainlander Millionaire , and there are quite a few in the world , who has donated to a Cypriot Charitable organization . I know Onasis gave sweet fa , I also know that the Lanitis Cypriot family have donated huge sums of money , recently to the Limassol Cancer fund which benefited enormously for the care of cancer sufferers and their families.
I'm just wondering if there has ever been a Greek , mainland , tycoon who gave a little to Cypriot charities , I do not know of any but someone must know , please let us know of any such magnanimous gesture !!
Im sure that Oracle must have some information on the charitable activities of the Greek tycoons.


The Onassis Foundation has dontaed substantial amounts to various Cypriot causes.

I'm going out, but when I get back, I will post the proof.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:45 am

miltiades wrote:Just wondering if anyone knows of a Greek mainlander Millionaire , and there are quite a few in the world , who has donated to a Cypriot Charitable organization . I know Onasis gave sweet fa , I also know that the Lanitis Cypriot family have donated huge sums of money , recently to the Limassol Cancer fund which benefited enormously for the care of cancer sufferers and their families.
I'm just wondering if there has ever been a Greek , mainland , tycoon who gave a little to Cypriot charities , I do not know of any but someone must know , please let us know of any such magnanimous gesture !!
Im sure that Oracle must have some information on the charitable activities of the Greek tycoons.


Discretion, being the better part of valour, is an alien figure in your dealings. Most benevolent people who donate to charity, do not advertise the fact, and this I know is true of Greeks. Which is where you and they, part company. Your vulgarity and uncouthness would render you unpalatable to the Greeks which you may have had the opportunity to meet, by virtue of your well-advertised wealth. Perhaps your negative experience of being shunned in Greece, is at the bottom of your desire to mix with the TCs, who you in turn, can feel superior over.

You are no bastion of Hellenic virtues Miltiades. But we all have to find our niche, and if yours is one more comfortable with the lifestyles of Turks, Brits and Yanks, lacking the essence (ousia) that has preserved our nation for millennia, then call yourself English (as you did on CL) but please have the good grace to leave Cyprus alone, and stop parasitising it as just another source of monetary gains.
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:26 pm

Never heard so much nonsense condensed in so few lines! It beats me why people refuse to take a rational look at Greece but I suppose all they are doing is to create an imaginary paradise with which they want to associate themselves. In other words they have an existential problem and the lusting for Greece is their way of tackling the problem. Let us look at some hard facts:

1. Greece has no democratic culture. Efforts have been made to bring democracy from outside. Please do not tell me about Periklis's democracy in ancient Greece because I'll break your bubble here too. In his times there were slaves and foreigners and even women who did not enjoy equal rights. Later, during the Byzantium era democracy could not be seen anywhere and the Ottoman rule that followed was just as bad. Then, Greece made a leap of about 500 years and arrived at contemporary times without passing through the enlightment, reformation, French revolution or even the industrial revolution.

2. Junta 1967 - 1974! No foreign powers could impose the junta had it not been for the Greeks. Let us be clear on this and terminate now and forever our favourite tune that the foreigners are to blame for all our misfortunes. For the first 5 years the Greeks did nothing against the junta. The people that really resisted are no more than 100, perhaps 200 in total. The majority of the people accepted the junta! Of course, after the fall of the junta the resistance heroes run into the millions ...

3. Turkey's aggression: A true Greek patriot will report the constant aggression of Turkey against Greece. The Turks on the other hand remind us that with the exception of 1821, the Greeks attacked Turkey in 1897, 1912, 1919 and 1974. Then we set our aerial space to 10 miles instead of the six and of course we have to deal with this but instead we spend our energy reporting the aggression of Turkey to ears that do not listen.

4. Paphitis thinks that he is doing Greece a good service. He is not. He is Greece’s worst enemy mainly because of his deep ignorance. The classics (which Oracle read only in English, bless her soul) have taught us that the essence of the ancient Greek culture is humanism, where man is placed at the centre of the world. Take notice, man not Greek! Modern day Greeks are becoming more xenophobic, racists, nationalistic, fanatic. As a result the rest of the civilised world finds it difficult to understand us. What Oracle, Paphitis and the rest of the orchestra in this forum drum out every time they write something about Hellenism is nothing but a disturbing embarrassment for everybody that understands that the civilisation that became part of the world’s civilisation is manhandled and desecrated by the small minds that are imprisoned within skulls of narrow boundaries.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:27 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:Just wondering if anyone knows of a Greek mainlander Millionaire , and there are quite a few in the world , who has donated to a Cypriot Charitable organization . I know Onasis gave sweet fa , I also know that the Lanitis Cypriot family have donated huge sums of money , recently to the Limassol Cancer fund which benefited enormously for the care of cancer sufferers and their families.
I'm just wondering if there has ever been a Greek , mainland , tycoon who gave a little to Cypriot charities , I do not know of any but someone must know , please let us know of any such magnanimous gesture !!
Im sure that Oracle must have some information on the charitable activities of the Greek tycoons.


Discretion, being the better part of valour, is an alien figure in your dealings. Most benevolent people who donate to charity, do not advertise the fact, and this I know is true of Greeks. Which is where you and they, part company. Your vulgarity and uncouthness would render you unpalatable to the Greeks which you may have had the opportunity to meet, by virtue of your well-advertised wealth. Perhaps your negative experience of being shunned in Greece, is at the bottom of your desire to mix with the TCs, who you in turn, can feel superior over.

You are no bastion of Hellenic virtues Miltiades. But we all have to find our niche, and if yours is one more comfortable with the lifestyles of Turks, Brits and Yanks, lacking the essence (ousia) that has preserved our nation for millennia, then call yourself English (as you did on CL) but please have the good grace to leave Cyprus alone, and stop parasitising it as just another source of monetary gains.

Talking about charitable gestures I have just remembered that you and I PLEDGED THE SUM OF 200 EUROS EACH to donate to the Limassol Orphanage , following the American elections. Cut the crap out and cough up. My donation will be presented personaly on my next visit. I will enquire as to yours.
What was it you said about the mainlad Greeks , they donate incognito !!
Measly sods , they dont give a shit, they have an island on which they deposit all their incurably ill and mentally disturbed humans which are looked after by European doctors and nurses since the Greeks are not predisposed to such minial tasks.
Cyprus happens to be my motherland and all Cypriots who can claim the same are my brothers and sisters irrespective whether they are G/Cs T/Cs , Kafenes Cypriots or any other Cypriots.

I have never claimed to be something that Im not , what I do claim is that my children and grand children by virtue of their English mother and grandmother have in their veins English blood , and so do thousands of Anglo Cypriots , including our most famous poofter George Toilet Michael , as well as countless of others.

As for being shunned in Greece , what on earth gave you this idea , I visited Greece on numerous occasions and discovered how corrupt , selfish and uncaring towards Cyprus they all are , frankly my dear we are a pain in their Greek arses , they refused to have us back in 1919 or was it 1922, Grivas in his memoirs tells us how General Papagos firstly as a military man and then in government wanted nothing to do with Cyprus and so did his cronies .
Enough about this foreign land , tell me how is Paphos today , and most importantly have you visited Stroumbi the Great I think you ought soon in order to pay tribute to a true Cypriot !!!
Regards , lots of ...love and kissess :lol: :lol:
Miltiades Of Cyprus !!!
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:36 pm

I don't wait for you to pay my dues. But keep increasing the figure and when we eventually meet for this "ritual" we can empty our pockets to our heart's content. :lol:

Carry on spewing for the benefit of others; I have something more constructive to see to for a while. 8)
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:51 pm

Oracle wrote:I don't wait for you to pay my dues. But keep increasing the figure and when we eventually meet for this "ritual" we can empty our pockets to our heart's content. :lol:

Carry on spewing for the benefit of others; I have something more constructive to see to for a while. 8)

Off to Stroumbi the Great no doubt to pay homage , O I'm really touched !! :lol: :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:08 pm

Bananiot wrote: ...The classics (which Oracle read only in English, bless her soul) have taught us that the essence of the ancient Greek culture is humanism, where man is placed at the centre of the world. Take notice, man not Greek! Modern day Greeks are becoming more xenophobic, racists, nationalistic, fanatic..


Perhaps because I was taught in (mostly) English I may have this wrong. But the MAN that was placed at the centre of the world, in Classical times, was in fact the GREEK (man) and not some outsider (Barbarian). So if you are now upholding this doctrine, then the Xenophobe is none other than you.
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:14 pm

That is a thump in the face of classical greek civilisation Oracle. I hope you can understand this otherwise it is not worth the bother.
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