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[denizaksulu]

If Miltiades has something to defend, that would depend on the evidence and charges. Please provide the evidence. If it is scattered about, it would not be too difficult to provide.I have had a lovely Christmas today. I hope you all have had the same.

[Oracle]

If Miltiades has something to defend, that would depend on the evidence and charges. Please provide the evidence. If it is scattered about, it would not be too difficult to provide.I have had a lovely Christmas today. I hope you all have had the same.

Miltiades knows what I am talking about. He conveniently skipped the posts he finds tricky. They are on this thread (Page 2). He is unable to mount a defence. I cannot push him any further, as we know what might happen then

I have even simplified my language to make it easier for him.

[Paphitis]

Who was it some years back in the USA who said " I have a dream ... the rest is history !!

Oracle , what in your mind constitutes a moral ethical and gutless coward . Put up or shut up.

You are the epitome! You eulogise pro-Cypriot chants whilst in your unguarded moments you are indistinguishable from the enemies of Cyprus.

Name one such incident , post one word of anti- Cyprus comments that I made . 6700 posts , not as many as yours ( I'm not as frivolous as you ) ,
name one iota of anti Cypriotism on my part or else , as previously adviced , shut up woman.

That's too easy Miltiades. This forum and others are littered with evidence that proves you are anti Cypriot and denigrating to the country. You are not a Cypriot first and foremost but a damn bloody Pom, who is also so eager to sell your soul to your other masters, who are the US and Israel, and this by default makes you pro Turkish and maybe even a Turk, when one observes the way in which you also denigrate the Cypriot Identity which is Hellenic.

Cypriots are as much Hellenes as the Cretins, Mycaeanians, Macedonians, Dorians, and Athenians. Cyprus is a Hellenic island as much as Crete, and Rhodes. We are an independent country (almost), but Cyprus is synonymous with Hellenism. The 2 are consummate and go hand in hand. You would have noticed a thread not too long ago where Piratis and I argued and proved successfully how Cyprus played a crucial role in the development of the Hellenistic world, just as much as Athens, and Sparta. Cypriots were a vital link in the Hellenistic chain and were also largely responsible for the development and evolution of the modern Greek Alphabet. We also proved that Cypriots are Hellenes through the many things that connect us, such as culture, language, religion and custom. These links have been around for millennia, and Cyprus is just as Greek as Australia is predominately British.

In the early 60s the Greeks were mostly preoccupied with demonstrating - their most favourable past time - with the Chilean political scene . In the very early 60s they were busily mending their communications systems - they were unaware the Turkey had bombed Western Cyprus !! A little later they got rid of their King and installed a military junta . In 1974 , Turkey invaded Cyprus and the Greeks were running around like headless chickens searching for their balls !! There was none to be found .
In 2008 there are still Cypriots who beleive that this nation is their motherland and that Turkey better not have any further ambitions on Cyprus because their perceived motherland , still without any balls , will come to our aid !!!

You should also be very careful on who you denigrate as having no "balls". You may actually find that when Greece was liberating her lands from the Ottomans in 1821, it was in fact us who were looking for our "balls" and didn't find any. The Greeks fought bravely and liberated their country without sacrificing their soul, like you and Bananiot have already done. Greeks have a long legacy in fighting many wars and battles for their very survival. They have had many victories and many defeats, but even when defeated the head is still held up high because when you have your soul, you lose nothing. Metaxas OXI on 28 Oct 41 is another example of the kind of "balls" Greeks have. They delivered the first allied victory in WWII, by repelling the Italian Army deep into Albania, against all odds.

Cypriots found their "balls" during the 55-59 campaign, where Cypriot men such as Pallikaridi, Avxentiou, Matsios and co stood up and fought a superpower for self determination and ENOSIS. And even here, people such as Bananiot are denigrating their memory and sacrifice. You too are denigrating their memory and sacrifice in a most cowardly fashion as you denounce the very fundamental identity they were fighting for, in order to gain favour with the Turks which you hope will deliver a "victory". This will not deliver any victory but will deliver the worst defeat. By denouncing Hellenism you are doing something that no Greek has ever done in history, which seems to suggest to me that you should pull your pants down and see whether you have any "balls" dangling between your legs. I suspect you will find none.

By denouncing Hellenism, you are denouncing your soul and very being. This is much worse than having your country occupied or losing any war. I would rather be like the Pontians, who have lost all their lands, than to also lose our identity.

You also stated that the Greeks tolerated the Greek Junta for seven years and did nothing about it. This is not true. There were many Greek Activists fighting against the Greek Junta. There were many resistance groups as well. Mikis Theodorakis played a role through his music and was incarcerated. Hundreds of political dissidents were exiled to Skiros, incarcerated and tortured. Many dissidents were killed. And then there was The Polytechnic University uprising where many students were crushed under heavy armour. What did Cyprus do to help the Greeks against this regime when they took office in 1967? Absolutely nothing. In fact, one could argue that Archbishop Makarios was also complicit with this regime, atleast in the beginning, as he continued to allow Greek Military Officers to lead and control the CNG. The Greeks did what they could against this regime. A person such as yourself would have done nothing as your insistence to befriend the powerful, whilst disregarding any moral sentiment is well documented.

Most Cypriots would be content to go back to "Horse and Cart" or whatever such things as you consider demeaning, if it meant not selling out to those who destroy our island.

Miltiades, most Cypriots are a very proud people. You would find that most Cypriots would rather go back to the "Horse and Cart" or even back to the Stone Age, instead of losing their very spirit and soul by denouncing Hellenism.

I could tell you that most of us don't want any solution if it means giving up our very existence. We would rather the present status quo and take our chances with possible Geo Political changes which may see us fight the war we have to in order to liberate ourselves properly, instead of allowing foreign powers tell us what constitution we should have or what identity we should adopt. Even if we lose this war, and Turkey takes the whole island, this would be preferable than denouncing our very soul. Because even when you lose everything material, you lose nothing if you still have your soul and can hold your head up high.

For people such as yourself and Bananiot, it is way too late. You have already sold out like pathetic cowards. Miltiades, you can be as rich as you like and gloat on your recent financial gains spurred by your masters financial ineptitude which will see millions lose their jobs and starve, but this money does not make you a man as you still won't have that vital organ dangling between your legs. You and Bananiot are both bloody cowards who have sold out to the enemy. I am glad that people such as yourselves form an insignificant minority. IMHO.

[Paphitis]

Miltiades, I forgot to mention that the very Greek Junta regime (1967-1974) was a regime that was fully sponsored, supported and backed by your very masters, the US/UK, NATO, Israel and the west. You falsely accuse the Greeks of not resisting the Junta, but I am sure that you yourself would not have done so either, as you would prefer to submit yourself to the powerful and almighty rulers of the world.

After all, morals are only a secondary consideration for a person such as yourself. You have steted this on this forum many times.

This is what you wrote in another thread:

Russia will look after its own interests regardless , just as the West will do the same . What about us Cypriots , well look at the impressive array of friends we have amassed over the years. Palestinians , Ethiopians , Iranians , Sudanese , Lybians , Cubans and last but not least the man himself Bin the Conqueror arsehole . Oh boy with friends like that who needs Russia the West or anyone else for that matter. But we are moral after all !!

And just for the record, no Cypriot has befriended Osama Bin Laden.

[miltiades]

Paphitis , I stand by what I said about the coward mainland Greeks , yes they fought the Ottoman empire after 440 years , great !! You know as much about Cyprus that I know about Quebec !!!

Cyprus being the country of my birth , not yours , being also the country of birth of my grandchildren means more to me than to an Australian born "Greek" not Cypriot but Greek who has no respect for what he perceives to be "his country" You sold your soul to Greece mate , you have no respect for the island of Cyprus which you insist telling me is part of Greece .You would happily see Cyprus burned to the ground so that you will get satisfaction knowing that it went down like a true "Greek" entity. What a load of immature rubbish from a grossly immature young man !

You go on to say ""I could tell you that most of us don't want any solution if it means giving up our very existence. "
Two comments here . Who is most of you , Ausie Greeks maybe ??
Which very existense mate are you talking about , existing as Greeks and dumping out Cypriotness ??

Let me tell you something about the Greeks , and I did spend time in Greece and I know the bastards well enough.
I start with the rich Greeks. They are the most corrupt , selfish uncouth loudmouthed ignorant barbarians , uncaring towards their own people that I ever came across . They are corrupt to the bone and a bloody disgrace , they are the worst class of " Rich " people comparable only to the African zombies of Zimbabwe.
As for the other classes , too bloody busy learning about the glory of Greece , dont give a shit about Cyprus and refer to us as DONKEYS.

Now , post one word of mine that is detrimental to CYPRUS or you two boy shut it.

[miltiades]

Miltiades, I forgot to mention that the very Greek Junta regime (1967-1974) was a regime that was fully sponsored, supported and backed by your very masters, the US/UK, NATO, Israel and the west. You falsely accuse the Greeks of not resisting the Junta but I am sure that you yourself would not have done so either as you would prefer to submit to yourself to the powerful and almighty rulers of the world.

After all, morals are only a secondary consideration for a person such as yourself.

I refer you to the answer I gave earlier on .

I was in Greece , in a small town called Aridea near Thessaloniki in 1969 , witnessed the welcome and standing ovation given to a military man as he walked into a large restaurant I was dining at the time . Everyone stood up and clapped shit scared not to , I remain seated and so did my wife , they presumed we were English until I spoke then they knew I was a Cypriot .

[miltiades]

If Miltiades has something to defend, that would depend on the evidence and charges. Please provide the evidence. If it is scattered about, it would not be too difficult to provide.I have had a lovely Christmas today. I hope you all have had the same.

Miltiades knows what I am talking about. He conveniently skipped the posts he finds tricky. They are on this thread (Page 2). He is unable to mount a defence. I cannot push him any further, as we know what might happen then

I have even simplified my language to make it easier for him.

You can push as hard as you like woman I can take you !
Now go back to page two of this thead , as you claim , and print one anti Cyprus word or simply shut it !

[Paphitis]

Cyprus being the country of my birth , not yours , being also the country of birth of my grandchildren means more to me than to an Australian born "Greek" not Cypriot but Greek who has no respect for what he perceives to be "his country" You sold your soul to Greece mate , you have no respect for the island of Cyprus which you insist telling me is part of Greece .You would happily see Cyprus burned to the ground so that you will get satisfaction knowing that it went down like a true "Greek" entity. What a load of immature rubbish from a grossly immature young man !

You don't have to be born in Cyprus to be a True Cypriot. And you are no "True Cypriot" because a True Cypriot is also a Hellene just as much as a Cretin is.

I have sold my soul to Cyprus, Hellenism and not to the US/UK, Israel or Turkey. You on the other hand have done exactly this. The countries I love are Cyprus and Australia. I love them both equally and have a deep respect for Greece as well. Whenever I go there, I feel as though I am home. The country and people are fantastic, and you could probably say they are a bit more sophisticated than your average Cypriot, judging by the mentality that I have come to know through the likes of yourself, Bananiot and GR!

You go on to say ""I could tell you that most of us don't want any solution if it means giving up our very existence. "
Two comments here . Who is most of you , Ausie Greeks maybe ??
Which very existense mate are you talking about , existing as Greeks and dumping out Cypriotness ??

No Miltiades, I refer to all 30 million Greeks that live all over the world over 5 continents, which also encompass Cypriots.

The Cypriots in Cyprus have no right to denounce and eradicate Hellenism from Cyprus. This would be a most unfortunate betrayal on Cypriots everywhere.

Let me tell you something about the Greeks , and I did spend time in Greece and I know the bastards well enough.

I have travelled to Greece a few times and I can tell you they are no bastards. The bastards are those Cypriots who think they are somehow superior to the Greeks. And you calling them bastards is more telling of your lack of culture and sophistication.

I start with the rich Greeks. They are the most corrupt , selfish uncouth loudmouthed ignorant barbarians , uncaring towards their own people that I ever came across . They are corrupt to the bone and a bloody disgrace , they are the worst class of " Rich " people comparable only to the African zombies of Zimbabwe.

A rich Greek is exactly the same as a rich Australian or American. However a rich Greek is nowhere near a rich Miltiades, who gloats about his new found wealth whilst not even considering the plight of millions of others at the hands of your master. A real rich Greek would also not brag as much as you do.

So what does this say about you?

As for the other classes , too bloody busy learning about the glory of Greece , dont give a shit about Cyprus and refer to us as DONKEYS.

What a load of rubbish. Greeks are very much attached to Cyprus. They love Cyprus as their own. I was in Athens as the Imia crisis was unfolding, and the average Greek was talking as though this crisis should also be some kind of catalyst for action over Cyprus. They are our most reliable friends and allies, and this will never change.

If a Greek has the misfortune to meet the likes of you, Bananiot or GR! then they could be forgiven for referring to Cypriots as DONKEYS.

Now , post one word of mine that is detrimental to CYPRUS or you two boy shut it.

I already did post something detrimental to Cyprus. See my post above.

But if you want more, all I would need to do is visit Cyprus Dying where just about every post of yours is anti Cypriot.

How did you go when you pulled your pants down? Did you find anything between your legs?

[Get Real!]

You don't have to be born in Cyprus to be a True Cypriot. And you are no "True Cypriot" because a True Cypriot is also a Hellene just as much as a Cretin is.

Are you trying to accommodate your non-Cypriot status?

Why don't you tell everyone how you and Cyprus are "related"...

[miltiades]

Cyprus being the country of my birth , not yours , being also the country of birth of my grandchildren means more to me than to an Australian born "Greek" not Cypriot but Greek who has no respect for what he perceives to be "his country" You sold your soul to Greece mate , you have no respect for the island of Cyprus which you insist telling me is part of Greece .You would happily see Cyprus burned to the ground so that you will get satisfaction knowing that it went down like a true "Greek" entity. What a load of immature rubbish from a grossly immature young man !

You don't have to be born in Cyprus to be a True Cypriot. And you are no "True Cypriot" because a True Cypriot is also a Hellene just as much as a Cretin is.

I have sold my soul to Cyprus, Hellenism and not to the US/UK, Israel or Turkey. You on the other hand have done exactly this. The countries I love are Cyprus and Australia. I love them both equally and have a deep respect for Greece as well. Whenever I go there, I feel as though I am home. The country and people are fantastic, and you could probably say they are a bit more sophisticated than your average Cypriot, judging by the mentality that I have come to know through the likes of yourself, Bananiot and GR!

You go on to say ""I could tell you that most of us don't want any solution if it means giving up our very existence. "
Two comments here . Who is most of you , Ausie Greeks maybe ??
Which very existense mate are you talking about , existing as Greeks and dumping out Cypriotness ??

No Miltiades, I refer to all 30 million Greeks that live all over the world over 5 continents, which also encompass Cypriots.

The Cypriots in Cyprus have no right to denounce and eradicate Hellenism from Cyprus. This would be a most unfortunate betrayal on Cypriots everywhere.

Let me tell you something about the Greeks , and I did spend time in Greece and I know the bastards well enough.

I have travelled to Greece a few times and I can tell you they are no bastards. The bastards are those Cypriots who think they are somehow superior to the Greeks. And you calling them bastards is more telling of your lack of culture and sophistication.

I start with the rich Greeks. They are the most corrupt , selfish uncouth loudmouthed ignorant barbarians , uncaring towards their own people that I ever came across . They are corrupt to the bone and a bloody disgrace , they are the worst class of " Rich " people comparable only to the African zombies of Zimbabwe.

A rich Greek is exactly the same as a rich Australian or American. However a rich Greek is nowhere near a rich Miltiades, who gloats about his new found wealth whilst not even considering the plight of millions of others at the hands of your master. A real rich Greek would also not brag as much as you do.

So what does this say about you?

As for the other classes , too bloody busy learning about the glory of Greece , dont give a shit about Cyprus and refer to us as DONKEYS.

What a load of rubbish. Greeks are very much attached to Cyprus. They love Cyprus as their own. I was in Athens as the Imia crisis was unfolding, and the average Greek was talking as though this crisis should also be some kind of catalyst for action over Cyprus. They are our most reliable friends and allies, and this will never change.

If a Greek has the misfortune to meet the likes of you, Bananiot or GR! then they could be forgiven for referring to Cypriots as DONKEYS.

Now , post one word of mine that is detrimental to CYPRUS or you two boy shut it.

I already did post something detrimental to Cyprus. See my post above.

But if you want more, all I would need to do is visit Cyprus Dying where just about every post of yours is anti Cypriot.

How did you go when you pulled your pants down? Did you find anything between your legs?

You look up to the Greeks because you lack confidence , as simple as this. Are the Cypriots superior to Greeks .You bet !
Are we Cypriots the same as Cretans , No Sir we are not !.

What is the nonsense about me posting Anti Cypriot posts on Cyprus living ?
Look man , make accusations as much as you like . Prove them , with just one word .
To make you feel better let me tell you the Greek rich are the scum of the earth , the treat their own people worst than shit , they consider us Cypriots as not worth straining to have a shit for let alone support us. Where were they in 74 mate ? They have no balls .
Their own students are still demonstrating against the corrupt uncaring elite and you expect me to respect them , they have been a bloody cancerous growth on Cyprus.
LONG LIVE THE CYPRIOTS .
The Greek Cypriots are NOT KALAMARADES .