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IS FEDERATION THE CORRECT SOLUTION?

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Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:38 pm

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free_cyprus wrote:Filitsa
if you knew what i meant by real education you would not question what real education is. its definatly not what most believe to be like going to univercity thats for sure, real education can only be had through self discovery of ones own mind, to put it simply its called enlightment, and by that i dont mean one has seen god either.


Free_Cyprus, let me ask you something! Do you consider Australia to be a one, united, independed and sovereign nation-state, more or less like the one you aspire to Cyprus ever becoming?


The unification of Australia suceeded by he dissapearance of the local ethnicities- the local Ethnicity in Cyprus is the Greeks and they have to dissapear in order you succeed a similar situation in the Island


Once I told you to get to see some specialist for your acute problem! Did you do anything in that direction?

PS: It is interesting to note that your ideas and views are also getting the support and cheering of the most reactionary, messed up and imbecile TCs in this forum, such as Zan and this certain …”Mr_from_NG!”
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:46 pm

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i treat people like you who has your perception of things in life, unfortunatly im not very successful at it for the simplest reasons being, you cannot change your thinking so there for all is in vain. some people are wise and some are otherwise and you are definaly otherwise
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:48 pm

Kifeas wrote:
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free_cyprus wrote:Filitsa
if you knew what i meant by real education you would not question what real education is. its definatly not what most believe to be like going to univercity thats for sure, real education can only be had through self discovery of ones own mind, to put it simply its called enlightment, and by that i dont mean one has seen god either.


Free_Cyprus, let me ask you something! Do you consider Australia to be a one, united, independed and sovereign nation-state, more or less like the one you aspire to Cyprus ever becoming?


The unification of Australia suceeded by he dissapearance of the local ethnicities- the local Ethnicity in Cyprus is the Greeks and they have to dissapear in order you succeed a similar situation in the Island


Once I told you to get to see some specialist for your acute problem! Did you do anything in that direction?

PS: It is interesting to note that your ideas and views are also getting the support and cheering of the most reactionary, messed up and imbecile TCs in this forum, such as Zan and this certain …”Mr_from_NG!”


Regarding your last believe me i do not have any problem or actually i do not care who is agree with me or not-I am here to present my opinion and not yours and my opinion based on my understanding of Greeks of Cyprus interests and not theories like "pali me xronia me kairous.."
If you are not in position to understand the fact that any solution will not be found with Tcs as the other part but Turkey itselve then you can continue to live with your dreams for a correct/fair a democratic federation solution
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:52 pm

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but the fact is one-we are he loosers of the war and if we decide to cooperate with he invasion forces for a united Cyprus the terms which we have to acept are these usually accepted by the loosers of the war.



Total respect Epsilon.


Respect for what “…be budala!” :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:53 pm

To return to the original question of this thread, the Federation solution being the right one for Cyprus.

Well, every time I try to believe it is, something comes up to shake my faith. Just today I got a response to a question about the changes of the place, village and town names in the north that was like a slap in the face.

The place names were changed as part of a deliberate drive to Turkfiy the north and not only the north of Cyprus. The drive started years before 1974, by Denktash and his cronies in order to overturn the claim that Cyprus was a Greek island and have a "Turkish footprint on Cyprus". But some of the names that offended these goons were not even Greek, and they were certainly there before anyone had even heard the work Turk in the eastern Mediterranan.

The deep rooted cynicism in such an action is telling. There is no love for the place or its history. What is there is a contrived nationalism of the worst kind, the kind that changes history books, and place names and fines people for speaking Greek, even if that is the only language they know (Denktash and TMTs way of getting Greek speaking Turkish Cypriots to stop speaking Greek was to make them shut up altogether).

How can you think of federation and equal status and rotating presidencies etc with people who do not hesitate to alter maps, or people who passively tolerate this kind of crap. Because so far I have not heard of any kind of mass opposition to the wholesale name changing. There are isolated voices here and there and that is not enough to inspire confidence.
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:54 pm

Kifeas wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
but the fact is one-we are he loosers of the war and if we decide to cooperate with he invasion forces for a united Cyprus the terms which we have to acept are these usually accepted by the loosers of the war.



Total respect Epsilon.


Respect for what “…bre butala!” :lol:


Is there any rule in this forum? Is anybody allowed to destroy a discussion behaving like a baby?
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:56 pm

free_cyprus wrote:Kifeas
i treat people like you who has your perception of things in life, unfortunatly im not very successful at it for the simplest reasons being, you cannot change your thinking so there for all is in vain. some people are wise and some are otherwise and you are definaly otherwise


Learn first how to speak and write English, and then tell us who is "wise" and who is "otherwise!" You are totally unintelligible, if you haven’t realized it yet!
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:58 pm

EPSILON wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
but the fact is one-we are he loosers of the war and if we decide to cooperate with he invasion forces for a united Cyprus the terms which we have to acept are these usually accepted by the loosers of the war.



Total respect Epsilon.


Respect for what “…bre butala!” :lol:


Is there any rule in this forum? Is anybody allowed to destroy a discussion behaving like a baby?


Do not worry Epsilon, I have corrected it above! It's "be budala" that I wanted to say to both you and the other one!
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:00 pm

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thank you for pointing out my weaknesses that i cannot spell or write properly...................you are so kind, and i agree with you you are far more wiser then me please i implore you to educate me.you are the master of education i have been lookign for all my life, will you help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:01 pm

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i forgot to add there are wise and there are other wise and there are idiots. and you are difinatly not wise so you have another two choices
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