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[free_cyprus]

EPSILON
if you want any solution to the cypriot problem then get rid of all this notions that we are greeks and turks, get rid of all greek and turkish flags, get rid of all greek and turkish history books, get rid of all turkish and greek media like t v and radio. break of diplomatic relationship with greece and turkey,then just then maybe we will have some kind of settlement for the cypriot problem, everyone wants a united cyprus how the feck we going to have an independent state when we are being told what to do by greece and turkey all the time, the truth of the matter is cypriots dont even have an identity, ask anyone from cyprus what are you and they give you the answer im a greek cypriot im a turkish cypriot............................what a load of shit,

is there anyone in this forum that has any kind of education??????????????????? i hope some idiot is not going to write back and tell me they been to univercity...............im talking about real education not univercity type and if you can work out what i mean then i give you credit for having at least brains.......................im sooo disapointed with the cypriot mentality thay have no vision to imagination and definatly no self respect to be proud to be cypriots

[Filitsa]

free_cyprus, what do you mean by "real education"?

[Kifeas]

free_cyprus, what do you mean by "real education"?

The education that he alone has only gotten!

[free_cyprus]

Filitsa
if you knew what i meant by real education you would not question what real education is. its definatly not what most believe to be like going to univercity thats for sure, real education can only be had through self discovery of ones own mind, to put it simply its called enlightment, and by that i dont mean one has seen god either.

[Kifeas]

Filitsa
if you knew what i meant by real education you would not question what real education is. its definatly not what most believe to be like going to univercity thats for sure, real education can only be had through self discovery of ones own mind, to put it simply its called enlightment, and by that i dont mean one has seen god either.

Free_Cyprus, let me ask you something! Do you consider Australia to be a one, united, independed and sovereign nation-state, more or less like the one you aspire to Cyprus ever becoming?

[EPSILON]

EPSILON
if you want any solution to the cypriot problem then get rid of all this notions that we are greeks and turks, get rid of all greek and turkish flags, get rid of all greek and turkish history books, get rid of all turkish and greek media like t v and radio. break of diplomatic relationship with greece and turkey,then just then maybe we will have some kind of settlement for the cypriot problem, everyone wants a united cyprus how the feck we going to have an independent state when we are being told what to do by greece and turkey all the time, the truth of the matter is cypriots dont even have an identity, ask anyone from cyprus what are you and they give you the answer im a greek cypriot im a turkish cypriot............................what a load of shit,

is there anyone in this forum that has any kind of education??????????????????? i hope some idiot is not going to write back and tell me they been to univercity...............im talking about real education not univercity type and if you can work out what i mean then i give you credit for having at least brains.......................im sooo disapointed with the cypriot mentality thay have no vision to imagination and definatly no self respect to be proud to be cypriots

Your problem to understand the real situation in Cyprus is all above you said.There is not a Cyprus Nation and the efforts of some people to create one since 1964 is the 80 per cent of the problem. Do not tell me about Junta and the other known facts- believe me if you try to understand Junta made less damage in Cyprus than the creation of a Nation from nowhere.

You can still continue to believe your leadership about unification and other dreams, even indepedent state etc etc, equality of population etc etc but the fact is one-we are he loosers of the war and if we decide to cooperate with he invasion forces for a united Cyprus the terms which we have to acept are these usually accepted by the loosers of the war.


We must find a ay as Greeks of Cyprus to give a solution with the less possible permanent damages and his i to recognise the power of the invator but never to acept a cooperation again with the Tcs-they have to lieve alone in their own state otherwise soon or later 1963-1964 will be repeated and the loosers will be he Greeks again.

[Filitsa]

Filitsa
if you knew what i meant by real education you would not question what real education is.

Holy moly! Obviously, I don't know what the hell you're talking about (or I wouldn't have asked), and I'm beginning to think that neither do you because you're talking in circles. Now, one more time, would you please explain to me in intelligent terms your concept of a "real education" without telling me what it isn't. Thank you.

[EPSILON]

Filitsa
if you knew what i meant by real education you would not question what real education is. its definatly not what most believe to be like going to univercity thats for sure, real education can only be had through self discovery of ones own mind, to put it simply its called enlightment, and by that i dont mean one has seen god either.

Free_Cyprus, let me ask you something! Do you consider Australia to be a one, united, independed and sovereign nation-state, more or less like the one you aspire to Cyprus ever becoming?

The unification of Australia suceeded by he dissapearance of the local ethnicities- the local Ethnicity in Cyprus is the Greeks and they have to dissapear in order you succeed a similar situation in the Island

[EPSILON]

Sorry Epsilon (and all the rest of the crow clan,) but I will disappoint you!

The realities are the following:

In 1974, the Turks (the pimp neo-ottoman kemalist establishment of Turkey and its local prostitutes) had not won the war! They had only won just one battle! The war is not over yet, but it still continues! What we have today is only a cease-fire in one of the fronts, the military one! In all the rest of the fronts, or dimensions, the war continues! In 1974, we only signed a cease-fire on the military dimension! Ever since 1974, the Turks (see above) have been losing all the subsequent and consecutive battles, on all the rest of the fronts!

They have lost all the battles in forcing us to capitulate and formally surrender to them the 37% of our country, as they have not been able to legalize anything of the illegitimate fait accomplices that the 1974 invasion has produced for them!

They have lost all the political battles in getting their since 1983 puppet state being recognized!

They have lost all the legal battles in the European Court of Human rights!

Finally, they have lost the biggest battle of all, which was for the RoC -with its entire de jure territory and sovereignty, not to become an EU member state; or at least to become one after first capitulating on their since 1974 illegitimate political demands, visa vie a solution of the Cyprus problem (read Annan plan!)

If in 1974, the Turks had managed to grab us from both of our two balls, and have been squeezing them ever since; in 2004, by winning the EU accession battle, we have managed to grab them from their two balls as well, and we can now both squeeze each other equally!

The difference between us and them is that while in our case we have gotten used to the pain of having our balls being squeezed for 33 years; the Turks (read above) have not gotten used to such a pain, that is why one can hear their cries and foul playing so loudly! The war continues!

You are thinking like a European or like a Greek, they are thinking differently and they count the power of political battles differently than you.
They consider the certain battles simple "THEORIES, INCLUDING UN RESOLUTIONS ETC ETC) They just waiting the correct time to come. As for the real battle - unfortunately you are wrong- we lost under any circumstances and despite any reasons-IN ANY SOLUTION WHICH IS TO BE SIGNED OFFICIALY WE WILL SIGN AS THE LOOSERS OF THE WAR.KEEP THEM SEPARATELY IN ORDER TO SAVE , AT LEAST SOMETHING.
Any solution providing cooperation with TCS under on state wil result full control of the state by Turkey and in longtrm dissapearance of Greeks from the Island

[MR-from-NG]

but the fact is one-we are he loosers of the war and if we decide to cooperate with he invasion forces for a united Cyprus the terms which we have to acept are these usually accepted by the loosers of the war.

Total respect Epsilon.