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IS FEDERATION THE CORRECT SOLUTION?

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Postby Get Real! » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:22 am

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michalis5354 wrote:It seems that the GCs goal is to reduce the TCs into a minority!

:? They'd have to be in the majority before getting reduced into a minority if that in fact was being done to them. I guess you must’ve flanked basic arithmetic at school.


Ever heard of political equality? may be difficult for you to comprehend but this is the only way we will move forward, you appear to be confusing individual rights with community rights, let me remind you what you try so hard to forget we are 2 equal communites.

I'm not confusing anything but you found the wrong person to preach to because I don't believe in political communities. A country should only have law abiding citizens not self-serving clans!
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Postby GreekForumer » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:39 am

Viewpoint wrote:Ever heard of political equality? may be difficult for you to comprehend but this is the only way we will move forward, you appear to be confusing individual rights with community rights, let me remind you what you try so hard to forget we are 2 equal communites.


No, there are 5 equal communities. How dare you ignore the rights of the other communities simply because yours outnumber them. That's a very "GC" attitude.

Greek = Turkish = Armenian = Latin = Maronite.

One vote for each community. 5 votes total.

Political Equality is the way forward.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:45 am

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This is what the partitionists say man, just to blow a smoke screen to the REAL problem. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EPEAT IT LIKE A STUPID PARROT. :P :P


It is the partitionist who believe to something unachievable in order to postpone the Cyprus settlelemnt. This was done back when ENOSIS was their aim and it is done now when they struggle to reduce the TCs in to a minority with no community rights. They appear to overemphasie the rights of the GC Community at the expense of the TC community. They believe that Turkey will leave Cyprus without safequarding the TC comunity. These are unachievable goals - the same (detrimental) as the goal of Enosis.

I M not suprised with the name calling as this is a normal practise in Cyprus.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:19 am

Nikitas wrote:Michali

You provide a fascinating range of possibilities! A Republic of Cyprus which reverts 100% to implementation of the 1960 constitution, with a Turkish Vice President and the proper Greek/Turkish ratio of Parliamentary seats, 70-30 ratio in public administration etc. When that happens, pray tell us, what wil be the status of the TRNC? What are we going to do about the occupied 37 per cent? You have a recipe for these details?

Buddy, you either have not thought the plan through or you are very tired!


I was trying to remind some people the real provisions of the ROC Constitution as there is no reference to them by any ROC politician and it was in response to the initial message of questionin Federation as the appropriate method to solve the CY problem.

If anyone wants to restore the statues of the 1960 ROC then he needs to incorporate the rights of the GC and TC as they were at that time taking into consideration the aggreements made of Federation . This is the only way forward and not working for soemthing that will never happen.

Working for the unachievable = working for Partition
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:04 pm

michalis5354 wrote:
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This is what the partitionists say man, just to blow a smoke screen to the REAL problem. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EPEAT IT LIKE A STUPID PARROT. :P :P


It is the partitionist who believe to something unachievable in order to postpone the Cyprus settlelemnt. This was done back when ENOSIS was their aim and it is done now when they struggle to reduce the TCs in to a minority with no community rights. They appear to overemphasie the rights of the GC Community at the expense of the TC community. They believe that Turkey will leave Cyprus without safequarding the TC comunity. These are unachievable goals - the same (detrimental) as the goal of Enosis.

I M not suprised with the name calling as this is a normal practise in Cyprus.


Still you seem totally incapable of understanding. The "minority status" that you claim as our being "our goal" is what the politicians in the occupied claim. It's something that concerns the politicians and ONLY the politicians. In other words a handful of people.

The average citizen in the street has other priorities, his human rights, his properties, his equality berfore the law and his safety...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:07 pm

Btw has anyone ever thought whether this term "community" is correct? Are the GCs for example something similar to the Jewish community in London?

Jesus a "community"????The British were always masters in messing everything up. How can anyone call 80% of the people of Cyprus "a community". I don't even consider the TCs a "community"

The correct terms should be the GC people of Cyprus the TC people of Cyprus the Armenian, etc.

Now we have 50,000 British here how should we call them, "community" ????
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:26 pm

its sooooo starange all the minority and mejorety stuff scotland has but about 5 million people and yet the u k has a total of nearly 70 million people and who is the prime minister gorden brown a scotsmen ............ lol
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:57 pm

Greek Forumer you forgot the Rom community, the Gypsies, they are a distinct Cypriot community who have been on our island for hundreds of years and they also rank equally with the other communities you mentioned, so the rankings are

Greek=Turkish=Armenian=Maronite=Latin=Rom that makes six equal partners. And I would add to that ranking the expatriated Cypriots who should have a say in the future of their homeland. The Annan plan did not make any provision for expatriated Cypriots and it was insulting in the treatment of the non Greek non Turkish communities of the island. No Cypriot deserves to be cast aside like that.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:37 pm

This is why bicommunal will work in Cyprus. One State, for the citizens to identify themselves as equals and as individuals, and if you like, a series of National Assemblies where these same people can sustain themselves as a part of a community.
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Postby GreekForumer » Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:42 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:This is why bicommunal will work in Cyprus. One State, for the citizens to identify themselves as equals and as individuals, and if you like, a series of National Assemblies where these same people can sustain themselves as a part of a community.


You mean multi-communal, right?
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