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[Roomy]

[RichardB]

when I say I can find what I want I mean

All the things I need for my everyday life

1. Excellent medical Facilities

2. Shops that suffice all my daily needs

3. A pretty good road system for travel around the Island (although I may reserve judgement on the are around ikea when it opens)

4. Great sports facilities

5. Two airports (from one of them i can make a conection to anywhere in the world)

6. Modern shoppng centres

7. water that is fine to drink

8. excellent housing

9. A democratically elected government

10. All the rights as a EU citizen

I could go on but hopefuly this will give you some idea of what I mean

[Roomy]

We said it is alright to be gay but when some guy fucks you and THEN you give him a blowjob you should remember where the shit smell comes from! Tip: it is not from the streets.

You do realise you are on a hiding to nothing with me don't you?

[plonker]

@ Sotos
First of all you are not reading, I guess you don`t know how to read (same as half of cypriots who don`t know they own language), I never wrote that Cyprus is 3rd world country I wrote that Cyprus is developing (translation for you: it is good, and is making progress).
Second of all the thing that you wrote just confirms my theory because you are obviously one of the "cypriot smarties" who thinks that everything is rotating around you, plus you are very impolite. Go out hvae some fun, visit other countries (exept your beloved Hellas) than we can continue the discussion in good manners.
p.s. That professor title doesn`t suits you.

[plonker]

I will reply to this post like this if you don`t mind.

when I say I can find what I want I mean

All the things I need for my everyday life

1. Excellent medical Facilities
- In my opinion this is only half true. Here is why.
You have to pay high price (aprox. 25p. montly for health insurance), even then you are not fully covered as in other EU countries.
Also what really shocked me, when I witnessed a car accident, the ambulance came after 25 min. ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

2. Shops that suffice all my daily needs
- True, but have to say it is very expensive, double the price than in Europe, some things even three times expensive.
I`m afraid of the 1.1.2008. it is going to be even worse.

3. A pretty good road system for travel around the Island (although I may reserve judgement on the are around ikea when it opens)
- hmm hmm... yes, if you have your own car. If not you are dead.
Public transportation is practicly zero, taxi drivers are rude and impolite, and as soon as you are not speaking greek there goes you money... no comment.
Oh yes, and the prices... just a small comparison, for 5e in Europe with taxi you can drive from one part of the town to another (like Limassol), here 5e is just a start. Come on. ?!?!?!

4. Great sports facilities
- Agree.

5. Two airports (from one of them i can make a conection to anywhere in the world)
- True, but what about prices ?
Where are those cheap flights to all major cities like in Europe.
My friends are flying all over the Europe for maximum of 100e return tickets, I have to pay at leat 150 pound, just to escape from the island.
Big, big minus.

6. Modern shoppng centres
- True.

7. water that is fine to drink
- Uh, I don`t know what to say, different people different taste, but ok, I agree with you.

8. excellent housing
- well yes... but what about prices ? In my opinion way to high.

9. A democratically elected government
- True.

10. All the rights as a EU citizen
- Not really... if you don`t have a "kumbare" you are dead...
No good job, they will try to screw you over everytime they can, you have to beg for a loan, immigration office problems, etc.

I could go on but hopefuly this will give you some idea of what I mean

[RichardB]

I would say I agree on most of your comments to my response plonker

With a couple of exceptions

1. The local hospitals do provide free emergency treatment when required and I would consider £25 per month a good investment for the service you get from the private sector. In the Uk it would cost me £80-85 pm for the same cover

2. Yes youre right but I'm a tight bast*ard when it comes to shopping (local market etc)

3. cant argue with you on this

5. I tend to use UK based websites and foreign airlines for travel and I dont pay over the odds

8. Renting is still cheap in Cyprus compared to other U countries i.e 2 bed apartment in Nicosia available for around £250-300 pm in uK around £500

Regards richard B

[CopperLine]

Forum members may be interested in the official ways in which countries are categorised by the World Bank (and which is followed by the IMF and other UN and non-UN agencies). You can find the latest brief summary of Cyprus at http://devdata.worldbank.org/external/CPProfile.asp?PTYPE=CP&CCODE=CYP

You can download the full World Development Report [url]
http://econ.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERN ... 24,00.html[/url] The 2008 Report is due out in mid-September. However for some reason which I can't quite fathom, Cyprus is not included in the main body of statistics and is referred to in the 'other economies' table where there are only a couple of handfuls of stats.

Having said that if you take average per capita (annual) income (PCI) as an indicator of development (and average income always hides disparities in income) then for 2005 Cyprus has an average PCI of US$16,500, roughly comparable with Bahrain and Malta, Korea, Hungary, Portugal, and Slovenia. For a sense of perspective the PCI in 2005 for Mexico is US$7310, Turkey US$4710, UK US$32,690, Greece US$23,600, Malaysia US$10,300, Algeria US$6,720.


It is always worth taking any statistics with a large pinch of salt, and should always be aware that there is always a c.two year time lag in the publication of these kinds of official stats.

You'll find a different method of classifying countries at [url]
http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/statistics/ ... s_CYP.html[/url] This is researched and worked out by the UNDP (UN Development Programme) and is a useful way of comparing more qualitative assessments with the more usual quantitative assessments.

Generally speaking terms like 'third world' have been abandoned (the term was a product of the Cold War) as have terms such as 'underdeveloped'. Instead there is a tendency to use terms such as "least developed" "developing" "industrlalised", or in the official World Bank documents you'll see the use of terms such as "lower middle income". Of course how you categorise countries all depends on what it is you are trying to measure.

Of course none of these statistical categorisations tell us anyting about what it feels like to live in a country or whether we feel safe, prosperous or content.

[pantheman]

The only real third world attribute in cyprus is the government offices and services.

They are mostly shit.

It is staffed by family members, who couldn't give a toss, who are not accountable to anyone, who are not result orientated and are basically F rude to everyone unless you are a relative.

Not to mention having to wait months or even years for simple actions to take place.

My god they couldn't process a simple application of any kind if it came down and hit them on the head.

Otherwise, cyprus is well on the road to being fully developed, hopefully the government will follow suit.

I love it here, otherwise.

IMHO

[kurupetos]

@ Sotos
First of all you are not reading, I guess you don`t know how to read (same as half of cypriots who don`t know they own language), I never wrote that Cyprus is 3rd world country I wrote that Cyprus is developing (translation for you: it is good, and is making progress).
Second of all the thing that you wrote just confirms my theory because you are obviously one of the "cypriot smarties" who thinks that everything is rotating around you, plus you are very impolite. Go out hvae some fun, visit other countries (exept your beloved Hellas) than we can continue the discussion in good manners.
p.s. That professor title doesn`t suits you.

[kurupetos]

Cypriots are lucky that british are here, otherwise Cyprus would be a 3rd world country... now is developing... hopefully in 10-20 year it is going to be developed.
I`m not going to go into details but anyone who ever visited Europe should know what am I talking about... Cyprus is faaar faaar away from that real Europe.

I hope you are not referring to 1878-1960 and UK SBA.