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[karma]

There's a thought...

he looks sweet and decent.

[BirKibrisli]

Gul's democratic election is a great opportunity for Turkey.If he becomes the President for all Turkish citizens,as he has pledged, and if he defends the secular,democratic state ,as he has pledged,Turkey could pull herself together and might even manage to deal with the Kurdish problem.
Please remember that in the Kurdish regions the vote for AKP was even higher than the national average of 47%...

Not so long ago,Gul gave an interview to a British reporter in which he claimed that secularism has had its day in Turkey and it must be put to bed...Given Erdogan's statement (again some years ago) that "Democracy is a train you get on to take you where you want to go",it might be too premature to hail the election of these two to the highests posts in Turkey.

My personal belief is that both Gul and Erdogan are too cunning to provoke the military too much...They will make deals with the generals and deliver as much of their Islamic agenda as possible to thier voters,stopping just short of dismantling secularism which will inevitably trigger a military coup...The biggest bargaining chip the AKP has to keep the military happy is Cyprus...The election of Gul hence ensures that no concessions will be forthcoming on Cyprus...And given my strong suspicion that Gul or Erdogan do not really want Turkey to join the EU,we can look forward to another 30 years of stalemate on our homeland...All Cypriots have been the losers by the election of Gul...except of course those who are praying for partition...

[BirKibrisli]

There's a thought...

he looks sweet and decent.

Could you post a photo of yourself in esharp (headcover),karmacim...
Just to see if you'd look as sweet and innocent as Yashar pasha...

[Nikitas]

Bir you paint a grim picture! But you provide an interesting analysis which I read just after seeing tv coverage of the grim faces of the generals during the official parades that took place yesterday. Neither Mrs Gul nor Mrs Erdogan were invited to the army celebrations. The generals did not talk to the two politicians. Gul and Ergodan sat side by side looking straight ahead, serious and somber. The body language said a lot!

The picture was telling, while the rest of Europe was struggling with forest fires (Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece) and interest rates, these army dudes were stuck on how two ladies would be dressed. It all seems a little obsolescent and anachronistic.

[karma]

There's a thought...

he looks sweet and decent.

Could you post a photo of yourself in esharp (headcover),karmacim...
Just to see if you'd look as sweet and innocent as Yashar pasha...

yeah sure, only when U start praying 5 times a day and stop drinking ur red wine

[BirKibrisli]

There's a thought...

he looks sweet and decent.

Could you post a photo of yourself in esharp (headcover),karmacim...
Just to see if you'd look as sweet and innocent as Yashar pasha...

yeah sure, only when U start praying 5 times a day and stop drinking ur red wine

I could possibly start praying 5 times a day...but stopping red wine...that would be sacreligous...Mevlana would not approve, my dear...

[BirKibrisli]

Bir you paint a grim picture! But you provide an interesting analysis which I read just after seeing tv coverage of the grim faces of the generals during the official parades that took place yesterday. Neither Mrs Gul nor Mrs Erdogan were invited to the army celebrations. The generals did not talk to the two politicians. Gul and Ergodan sat side by side looking straight ahead, serious and somber. The body language said a lot!

The picture was telling, while the rest of Europe was struggling with forest fires (Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece) and interest rates, these army dudes were stuck on how two ladies would be dressed. It all seems a little obsolescent and anachronistic.

I know,Nikitas..And I do hope I am wrong...But if as I believe AKP's secret agenda is to turn Turkey into an Islamic republic,they could never join the EU...And what better excuse to keep them out than the unsolved and unsolvable Cyprus problem...

[miltiades]

Papadopoulos a lawyer that specialises in international affairs GR? Where did you unearth this gem from? Can you provide some proofs? Surely you do not mean the shady deals of his office with the dictator of Serbia or the numerous offshore companies (sic) that sprung to life thanks to his office?

Gul now. His elections constitutes a major shift in political thinking in Turkey. The army, however, is not defeated and if there is going to be a smooth transition to a civil state, the army must not be seen to be defeated or humiliated because there probably will be a backlash in this case. It is going to be a slow process, a step by step process which will only be completed once Turkey becomes a full member of the EU. Gul seems the right person for this and I do hope he succeeds. Another thing, we often get carried away and think that the sun rises every morning because of Cyprus. Of course we are justified to place the cyprob as our number one priority but countries such as Turkey have other pressing priorities too. We would be wise to show some sensitivity to this too.

Another thing that bothers me is the forlorn hope many people live on in Cyprus that the end of our problems will come when Turkey disintegrates into smithereens. This reminds me of a person that dreams on winning the lottery in order to solve his financial problems. Dreaming that winning the lottery is not half as bad as expecting Turkey to disintegrate. This is because you start living in a make believe world and you remain inactive while others shape the future.

In a nutshell, we should understand that Turkey is here to stay and make peace with this. Furthermore we should try to make the most of the presence of this country, in a positive way. If we start thinking along these lines it will make it easy for the civil government of Turkey to work with us in finding a just and lasting solution. Gul also needs the encouragement in order to fend off any pressure from the die harts.

Fully agree on the general position stated herein. Gcs must realise that they must make some basic changes on their daily attendance to the Cyprus problem themselves and not to wait miracles to help them.

Why i have the feeling that the only part of Gcs society which is dealling with the problem is the state's officials and nobody else? Watching progress in TV is not a sufficient effort.

Someone can ask me and what Iam doing different than these i blame to watch the problem through the tv? Beilieve me many!!!and on small is my participation in this forum

And so says the number one partitionist Epsilon , who unknowingly is the predominant collaborator of Turkey and the enemy of all Cypriots who want their island united as one and the foreign troops out .
Your signature is that of an accomplice of the continued occupation of Cyprus and that of Judas who has given up on the 37% of Cyprus currently under foreign occupation by recognising the existence of Turkish Cyprus and Greek Cyprus. You are a disgrace to Cyprus.

[EPSILON]

Papadopoulos a lawyer that specialises in international affairs GR? Where did you unearth this gem from? Can you provide some proofs? Surely you do not mean the shady deals of his office with the dictator of Serbia or the numerous offshore companies (sic) that sprung to life thanks to his office?

Gul now. His elections constitutes a major shift in political thinking in Turkey. The army, however, is not defeated and if there is going to be a smooth transition to a civil state, the army must not be seen to be defeated or humiliated because there probably will be a backlash in this case. It is going to be a slow process, a step by step process which will only be completed once Turkey becomes a full member of the EU. Gul seems the right person for this and I do hope he succeeds. Another thing, we often get carried away and think that the sun rises every morning because of Cyprus. Of course we are justified to place the cyprob as our number one priority but countries such as Turkey have other pressing priorities too. We would be wise to show some sensitivity to this too.

Another thing that bothers me is the forlorn hope many people live on in Cyprus that the end of our problems will come when Turkey disintegrates into smithereens. This reminds me of a person that dreams on winning the lottery in order to solve his financial problems. Dreaming that winning the lottery is not half as bad as expecting Turkey to disintegrate. This is because you start living in a make believe world and you remain inactive while others shape the future.

In a nutshell, we should understand that Turkey is here to stay and make peace with this. Furthermore we should try to make the most of the presence of this country, in a positive way. If we start thinking along these lines it will make it easy for the civil government of Turkey to work with us in finding a just and lasting solution. Gul also needs the encouragement in order to fend off any pressure from the die harts.

Fully agree on the general position stated herein. Gcs must realise that they must make some basic changes on their daily attendance to the Cyprus problem themselves and not to wait miracles to help them.

Why i have the feeling that the only part of Gcs society which is dealling with the problem is the state's officials and nobody else? Watching progress in TV is not a sufficient effort.

Someone can ask me and what Iam doing different than these i blame to watch the problem through the tv? Beilieve me many!!!and on small is my participation in this forum

And so says the number one partitionist Epsilon , who unknowingly is the predominant collaborator of Turkey and the enemy of all Cypriots who want their island united as one and the foreign troops out .
Your signature is that of an accomplice of the continued occupation of Cyprus and that of Judas who has given up on the 37% of Cyprus currently under foreign occupation by recognising the existence of Turkish Cyprus and Greek Cyprus. You are a disgrace to Cyprus.

Once again a conclusion: everybody saying that he is Greek is supported of Junta and collaporator of the invators.I hope that one day people like you will weak up and understand you are doing, hopefully before the final disaster comes.

[denizaksulu]

I would like to point out that I, for one, do not wish Turkey to disintegrate. Quite the contrary – I wish it all the best and continue to support Abdullah Gul in his efforts to join the EU.

Good luck

Chances of Turkey gaining EU entry, pre-Gul = 0%

Chances of Turkey gaining EU entry, post-Gul = 0%

Find some other suckers for your third world, backward nation to join.

Pip-pip
Phoenix

You are a miserable so and so. Lets hope for the best and be positive. I dont like the Guy but give him a chance, I say. You talk to the guy, he may even 'listen' to you
Regards
DA