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[EPSILON]

I hope this hell will end soon. And I hope they will find the ones responsible and punish them with the maximum possible punishment (too bad the death penalty does not exist in Greece).

What I wonder is how it is possible that all those fires started at the same time. The arsonists must have been coordinated from somewhere. I understand why some citizen would have interests in burning some area, but no Greek would want to burn the whole Greece (except SN - who should be a prime suspect ).

This seems like being coordinated from abroad.

It was interesting to read various accusations on the matter. One of them was the displeased Kosovans because of Greek policy towards them. Apart from the usual accusations agains the Turks Agent Provocatuer, I would point my finger at the Kossovans. The Greek goverment described that the fires occured in a regular time patern as if arsonists had been setting the fires alight in a specific order, one by one. I hope they catch the thigs that did this. I find it hard to accuse the land developers. You never know. Tragic.
I
dont understand the reasons why Turkish aid was turned down. They only accepted the Air support. From press reports in Turkey there is a lot of sadness and sympathy felt towards the Greek peoples suffering.

Do not look for Turks or Kossovars- A political party - not the official part of it or its leadership but law staff are the criminals. Nobody can say this officially since this will mean a civil war/ goerenment knows who are behind the fires but any government would put Country's interests first than to announce ogfficially what is happening

[karma]

Do not look for Turks or Kossovars- A political party - not the official part of it or its leadership but law staff are the criminals. Nobody can say this officially since this will mean a civil war/ goerenment knows who are behind the fires but any government would put Country's interests first than to announce ogfficially what is happening

Totally agreed..
and this is not the first time they r doing it.. Ambition is such a bad thing..

[karma]

Karma does not read before typing but never mind. The thing that made an impression on me yesterday were all those dead animals remaining exposed and unburied, waiting for the state officials to count them so that compensations can be calculated. This shows the true nature of the inhabitants of present day Greece. The wise thing to do was to bury the animals in order to prevent diseases breaking out. However, those who lost 20 animals would claim they lost 300 and those who lost 100 would claim for 1000. When Raphaelides said that Greece is inhabited by barbarians that learned Greek he was scorned. He has been proved correct every day since Friday.

Do u bury kleftiko or souvla?? they were already burnt !

it is such a big trajedy, no Gov. wld be able to handle 100 different fires in 100 different regions of the country..Dont u remember wht happened with Katrina case in the USA??

[alexISS]

This is what sickens me about the Greeks , their insatiable appetite for corrupt practices. Money is all that matters to them , decency and honesty is extinct , trust for their fellow citizens is not existent . Dead animals left unburied so that their owners would not cheat the system.
I wonder what the ancient Greeks would make of the modern day inhabitants of Greece.

I've told you before, Miltiades, you can't judge all Greeks based on the characters of the ones you used to socialize with. Repeating the same disgusting accussasions only shows that you are probably an "easy" victim for crooks. You've even been robbed in this very forum for god's sake, and the one who fooled you was a Cypriot, not a Greek.

Finally, asking for proof is the only reasonable thing for a government to do before handing out cash, the same would have happened in every other country of the world. Only this time, proof will be asked AFTER the money is given to the victims, and that's something other governments would definately not do. So please take it easy on your bashing of Greeks, because "filotimo" is a Greek quality and it's thanks to it that the people of Greece have donated more than 100 million euros to the victims in only one day

[alexISS]

Remember miltiades, those that criticise Greece are those that love Greece. I have just listened to some Cypriot fire fighters who are operating in Greece. They reckoned that the Greek fire fighters had no idea whatsoever of modern methods employed to extinguish fires. The Cypriot fighters saved a number of villages which would have been burned to the ground.

That sounds quite improbable, especially when considering that, as in the Cypriot army, the know-how is imported from Greece. Besides, the Greek fire fighters are considered as some of the best trained and well equipped in the world, and please don't forget that whenever there are fires in Cyprus Greece sends Canadairs because the RoC has yet to buy any firefighting aircrafts or helicopters.


With that said, I and all Greeks are grateful to the Cypriot firefighters who have done an excellent job indeed and literally saved those villages from the flames

[LENA]

I am so mad with all this fires in Greece...when the days passes I hear more and more things that upset me...today i heard in the news that some people from a village attacked towards two firemen while they were trying to save their village...how stupid is that...I heard that Russia is making fun of Greece because the first day of that tragedy they offered them for free and plane that drops 4 tone of water every time instead of the 0.5tone that drops our plane and they said no we control it and after 4 days they ask to hire that plane from Russia ... how stupid is that??? They have a law as they say that they didnt let the army go and help the firemen only the 4th day they let some soldiers to help...the whole country is burning and they expect from women and old men to turn off the fire ... some of the citizens refused to leave their home...i know is hart but things like houses and land can rebuild but not lives. I heard somebody saying from a village that 10 of the men were trying to fight with the fire and the rest as they said they were drinking coffee or ouzo...now tell me how clever is that? They start arguing about money but the fire is still going on. Some people went to protest for what...when the fire is still on...they don’t know how to save their country but they know very well how to argue.

They are going to get a lot of money for the poor people who lost everything...I hope those money will end up in those people’s pockets and not the big bosses.

[Get Real!]

Remember miltiades, those that criticise Greece are those that love Greece.

Well that explains your passionate “hate” for TP… it was reverse psychology all along!!!

[Bananiot]

Not quite, Papadopoulos is just a person and in this case you can only speak of reverse osmosis.

[Get Real!]

Not quite, Papadopoulos is just a person and in this case you can only speak of reverse osmosis.

"Osmosis"... an interesting choice of word first coined by Talat back in 2004 and used so far exclusively by the TC propaganda machine...

[Nikitas]

Ladies and gentlemen, hear this from the chief of the Foresters Union of Greece, Mr Bessis:

"An unmanaged forest is bomb waiting to explode...." broadcast tonight on state TV. And a little further on "the funds allocated to a forestry district that burned, like Ilia, amount to 20 000 Euro annually".

Mismanagement killed the forests, not arsonists! And why were the forests mismanaged? Because the Greek ecological movement is quick to protest and condemn in the media any attempt to trim, clean and reasonably exploit forests. This ability of the Eco movement to gain media coverage sways political parties to go along with this rubbish. The end result, we have no forest management in Greece.

FOr all of you forest lovers out there- a Mediterranean forest is destined to burn when it reaches maturity unless man intervenes with management practices and reduces the fuel load (wood and other biomass) that builds up.

The animals are not buried waiting for the district vet to inspect them and sign the verification papers that they were in fact killed. The same happens when wolves kill sheep or cattle. The system suspects its own citizens of fraud before they even commit it. So Greek citizens must often prove that they are not guilty, rather than the other way around.

Bananiot this racist attitude towards Greeks, regarding them as crooks, even though Greece has the lowes crime rate in the EU, is what Rapahelidies and others like him have helped propagate. He might have been a leftist, he was also an antigreek racist at times.

Even if there was arson, in a properly managed forest the damage would have been much less.

Phew!