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[alexISS]

Oh come on now, enough about the incompetence of the state... The public sector is still infested with Pasokous, they are everywhere and they undermine the state which they work for with every chance they get, and that's first hand experience. The biggest mistake of this government is that they did not uproot this cancer from day one.

[oranos64]

PASOKOUS ...= COMMIES YES ...OR AM I CONFUSED...Either way ,.,no time for fake modern communists .....

the problem in Greece with these fires etc ...is like all of EUROPE...Seriously visit Japan ....everybody from old to 10 years olds are responsible citizesn ...trained to identitfy and work togeather in emergencies etc ....10 year children can put out fires ...(Greece and CYP kids only know how to switch channels on remote control and sms )

i was there in 2004 ...we had a small earthquake and it knocked a building down ..within minutes all occupants were out safely - (osaka - health district - april ) fires out ....etc ....

its a matter of discipline ....also for that matter if this is like the fires in the paphos area .....caused by angry deveopers .....not only should their assets be stripped ...but charged with arson and terrorisim ....and HUNG

[SN]

Basically the total incopitence of the Greek state,whether Pasok or ND in power is a fact.Greece is a bordelo when it comes to civil protection.Lightly saying Greece is the whorehouse of the EU, specially when coping with crisis such as these,is an understatement.
Now whatever political games emerge from this tragedy is on the agenda.All of south Europe is hit by fires but none has experienced what Greece experienced these days.We are talking about the third deadliest fires in human history the last 150 years and the last of this magnitude(victimwise) being in the 40's in France.

So off course the Greek state should and must be constantly reminded of its total failure and utter incopitence which you only see in third world countries.Along with Cyprus and Israel,Greece is considered the only developed economy in all of Southeastern Med....i bet you dont see this disgrace in Israel or RoCyprus though....

So whoever wants to fuck Greece...just take a number.......the bordelo is open 24/7.....you get a free fire with each fuck

[Bananiot]

Karma does not read before typing but never mind. The thing that made an impression on me yesterday were all those dead animals remaining exposed and unburied, waiting for the state officials to count them so that compensations can be calculated. This shows the true nature of the inhabitants of present day Greece. The wise thing to do was to bury the animals in order to prevent diseases breaking out. However, those who lost 20 animals would claim they lost 300 and those who lost 100 would claim for 1000. When Raphaelides said that Greece is inhabited by barbarians that learned Greek he was scorned. He has been proved correct every day since Friday.

[miltiades]

Karma does not read before typing but never mind. The thing that made an impression on me yesterday were all those dead animals remaining exposed and unburied, waiting for the state officials to count them so that compensations can be calculated. This shows the true nature of the inhabitants of present day Greece. The wise thing to do was to bury the animals in order to prevent diseases breaking out. However, those who lost 20 animals would claim they lost 300 and those who lost 100 would claim for 1000. When Raphaelides said that Greece is inhabited by barbarians that learned Greek he was scorned. He has been proved correct every day since Friday.

This is what sickens me about the Greeks , their insatiable appetite for corrupt practices. Money is all that matters to them , decency and honesty is extinct , trust for their fellow citizens is not existent . Dead animals left unburied so that their owners would not cheat the system.
I wonder what the ancient Greeks would make of the modern day inhabitants of Greece.

[Bananiot]

Remember miltiades, those that criticise Greece are those that love Greece. I have just listened to some Cypriot fire fighters who are operating in Greece. They reckoned that the Greek fire fighters had no idea whatsoever of modern methods employed to extinguish fires. The Cypriot fighters saved a number of villages which would have been burned to the ground.

[SN]

Remember miltiades, those that criticise Greece are those that love Greece.

I must concur...but its a love/hate thing....Like the War of the Roses or something.I think its the water here

[EPSILON]

Karma does not read before typing but never mind. The thing that made an impression on me yesterday were all those dead animals remaining exposed and unburied, waiting for the state officials to count them so that compensations can be calculated. This shows the true nature of the inhabitants of present day Greece. The wise thing to do was to bury the animals in order to prevent diseases breaking out. However, those who lost 20 animals would claim they lost 300 and those who lost 100 would claim for 1000. When Raphaelides said that Greece is inhabited by barbarians that learned Greek he was scorned. He has been proved correct every day since Friday.

This is what sickens me about the Greeks , their insatiable appetite for corrupt practices. Money is all that matters to them , decency and honesty is extinct , trust for their fellow citizens is not existent . Dead animals left unburied so that their owners would not cheat the system.
I wonder what the ancient Greeks would make of the modern day inhabitants of Greece.

Miltiades, your writtings is a reason for which i named you as a "fanatic Cypriot" You know nothing, you understand nothing!
We are speaking here about the worst disaster after war ii!!! We are speaking about thousands of people remained homeless- If you was a Cypriot you should understand the situation because you have the experience of 1974 but you are just a "fanatic Cypriot" which means relative to annimals which has no history or routes to base on but the take the life as it comes.

But do not worry Greece , despite some trouples, always remain alive like the phoenix.And always find time to deal with Genitsarous like you

[EPSILON]

Remember miltiades, those that criticise Greece are those that love Greece. I have just listened to some Cypriot fire fighters who are operating in Greece. They reckoned that the Greek fire fighters had no idea whatsoever of modern methods employed to extinguish fires. The Cypriot fighters saved a number of villages which would have been burned to the ground.

Maybe they compared the effectiness of forest commantos with simple firemen.If they compared with a respective Greek department then they would realised how small they are.

[denizaksulu]

I hope this hell will end soon. And I hope they will find the ones responsible and punish them with the maximum possible punishment (too bad the death penalty does not exist in Greece).

What I wonder is how it is possible that all those fires started at the same time. The arsonists must have been coordinated from somewhere. I understand why some citizen would have interests in burning some area, but no Greek would want to burn the whole Greece (except SN - who should be a prime suspect ).

This seems like being coordinated from abroad.

It was interesting to read various accusations on the matter. One of them was the displeased Kosovans because of Greek policy towards them. Apart from the usual accusations agains the Turks Agent Provocatuer, I would point my finger at the Kossovans. The Greek goverment described that the fires occured in a regular time patern as if arsonists had been setting the fires alight in a specific order, one by one. I hope they catch the thigs that did this. I find it hard to accuse the land developers. You never know. Tragic.
I
dont understand the reasons why Turkish aid was turned down. They only accepted the Air support. From press reports in Turkey there is a lot of sadness and sympathy felt towards the Greek peoples suffering.