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Fires in Greece - Coordinated arsonists?

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Postby Bananiot » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:08 pm

You should translate it, if you went into the trouble to publish it.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:34 pm

There are two issues about these fires: 1) Who is responsible, as it is obvious they didn't naturally start, and that the arsonists were coordinated and 2) How they were managed by the government.

The article you posted is more or less saying "lets forget who started the fires, and lets just see at the bad way they were managed by the government". Why? Why shouldn't we examine both issues?

In fact both issues are related, since one of the ways to prevent such disasters is to stop those arsonists before they manage to do much destruction. If the country is open to attacks by coordinated arsonists even the best and more organized fire department wouldn't be able to do much.
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Postby T_C » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:40 pm

:shock: Thats terrible man....

:? I just don't get it though, why would they do something like this????

If anything the way the government managed it comes 2nd...governments always mess up when it comes to situations they aren't prepared for so it comes as no suprise but why would people do this? For what purpose :?:
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Postby SN » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:50 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote::shock: Thats terrible man....

:? I just don't get it though, why would they do something like this????

If anything the way the government managed it comes 2nd...governments always mess up when it comes to situations they aren't prepared for so it comes as no suprise but why would people do this? For what purpose :?:



Turkish Cypriot,according to the fascists Psomiadis(Thessaloniki's master) and Karatzaferis(LAOS/NAZI political party) Turkey and ''Skopia'' are plotting against the national stability and aim directly to attack Greece.
In other words,the eternal bullshit of the Greek fascists.

Now on a serious note,the fires are deliberate since there is no other explanasion.Some tend to believe it is extreme leftish people some other say it is a combination of economical benefits from certain groups and a set of accidental fire.
Nothing is know ,but the country is on hightened army alert and with the hysteria that is taking place here i will not be suprised if Greece apply a martial law or something.It is Dante's inferno...
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:08 am

OK guys, if I can claim some specialist knowledge on forestry matters I will explain how fires start spontaneously.

Given the right conditions, prolonged dry spells, high temperatures, low humidity, forests can catch fire easily. The actual fire lighting can be through friction, as when two branches rub against one another, through optical means, ie focusing of sunlight through a coke bottle or bottom of concave beer can, or through natural causes such as lighthning. The presence of volatile oils like terebinthine from pines helps the ligthing process.

Here we had fires that started at night, in a a linear progression, each outbreak coming several minute after the previous one. Fire starting at night when temperatures, wind and optical causes are at the least favorable, makes this whole deal strange.

On the other hand, as per the article that Bananiot quoted, Greek forests are not particualry well managed when it comes to things like clearing low growth to prevent ground fires or trees to prevent canopy fires (the worst kind). So when a fire does start it tends to gain dimensions and cause disproportionate damage.

What the article did not mention is that the eco lobby in Greece, for PR reasons, actively opposes the professional management of forests. Claiming that it is lumbering masquerading as thinning. Note that the Eco lobby has not made a single statement during these fires. You people in Cyprus will learn about the Eco lobby soon enough, it is part and parcel of the EU way of doing things.
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Postby SN » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:49 am

For me this picture of the winged victory in Ancient Olympia represents Greece during this tragedy

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Postby karma » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:17 am

SN wrote:For me this picture of the winged victory in Ancient Olympia represents Greece during this tragedy

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Postby SN » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:06 pm

karma wrote:
SN wrote:For me this picture of the winged victory in Ancient Olympia represents Greece during this tragedy

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Ax Ellada..... http://youtube.com/watch?v=jsHUK9IAAmA
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Postby SN » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:11 pm

Dedicated to Greece and the victims of the tragedy http://youtube.com/watch?v=Drt5X_yEt4c
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Postby GorillaGal » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:30 pm

karma wrote:
miltiades wrote:Does anyone think the "americanico daxtilo " had any thing to do with it !!!! ?


:lol:

ofcourse ! KKE and Paparigka !


forgive me Gorilla :oops:


how can you say that my friend? :( :?: :?: :(
WHY do you say that my friend?
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