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[Get Real!]

hahaha Get Real - Can You Feel The Force and Your The One For Me are chooooooooons!

Technically Rock is black music because it stems from Rock and Roll which was the racist white term for Rhythm and Blues which is black music!

I like chooooooooons...

[Get Real!]

GR im sure you know this one lol....Go To Be Real by Cheryl Lynn.

Err, actually I don't! Now that's a BIG girl groovin....

[denizaksulu]

GReal, why dont you include some Greek or Cypriot titles if you find any. Anybody else, for that matter.

I don't know... it's an English speaking forum, I can't spell Greek very well, hell I don't even have Greek support setup on this PC...

I will take your word for it! Music has no boundaries though.
Thanks for trying

[dinos]

Technically Rock is black music because it stems from Rock and Roll which was the racist white term for Rhythm and Blues which is black music!

Splitting hairs a bit, but the Arthur Lee/Love clips I posted are technically psychedelia; an offshoot of rock. Rock itself (as well as R&B) descended from blues which come from Africa. So yes, rock is indeed black music but because R&B and rock share common roots.

Rock and R&B have very distinct differences. The most notable of which is that rock (and maybe more so with psychedelia) tends to be more flexible and lends itself more to crossover with other types of music from Spanish to Arabic. You don't really see Luther Vandross incorporating Hishik-Bishik into his music. You do see Arabic, Moroccan and Indian influences in LZ (and especially in Robert's solo work, noting Tuareg influences as well).

The crossover puts other cultures into a framework where they can be appreciated from a place of familiarity. I could point people to Oum Kalthoum or even Tinariwen but it's more difficult to process from the vantage point of western tastes. If there was more of this than ass%0le politicians and terrorists waging wars, the world would arguably be a better place.

Anyway, here is Oum Kalthoum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eavlX3fkHco

And Tinariwen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhlVVuxnRwc

Don't get me wrong - the significance of R&B artists like Luther Vandross and Stevie Wonder should not be underestimated. But I don't see them as being better than anyone else. It's strictly a matter of what our personal tastes are given all the choices out there - if we're not too lazy to look and see what those choices really are.

[dinos]

Oops, I think I may have blended another thread into this one. Sorry!

By the way, how did I become an instructor? I kind of liked being an "advanced member."

[dinos]

Sorry for repeated posts. But I can't believe I forgot to post some more absolute favorites...

Baaba Maal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacmc2kA ... ed&search=

Ali Farka Toure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA__bM7abhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4nJBhW ... ed&search=

Afro Celts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSyS0rLA ... ed&search=
- With Peter Gabriel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7bk_McVHU

[Get Real!]

Oops, I think I may have blended another thread into this one. Sorry!

By the way, how did I become an instructor? I kind of liked being an "advanced member."

The good looking guy on your avatar must've been spotted...

[RichardB]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=7

Any one else on the forum heard of Phil Ochs for a while I was really into his music / lyrics

Very anti war...pro unions etc

[dinos]

By the way, how did I become an instructor? I kind of liked being an "advanced member."

The good looking guy on your avatar must've been spotted...

So easy, a caveman can do it...

[Southerner]

Technically Rock is black music because it stems from Rock and Roll which was the racist white term for Rhythm and Blues which is black music!

Rock and Roll was originaly a black musical term for 'sexual intercourse', and nothing to do with white racism.

Sadly it is true that Black musicians were stifled but many did break through, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Little Richard etc.

Many early white R&R stars/musicians were from the Country and Western circuit, Bill Haley and the Comets being the first sucessful white R&R band.

Rock music is entirely different from Rock and Roll, which by 1960 had virtualy fizzled out, it derived from the beat generation founded during the fabulous days of Beatlemania, by the mid to late 60s bands like 'Cream', Led Zeppelin etc were emerging along with popular bands such as 'The Who' with the incredible 'Ox' on Bass.

I was around during the early days of R&R and started my own playing career in 1962 just before Beatlemania exploded and I still gig regularly including last night.

Whilst R&R originated in the Black music clubs, 'Rock' music is something totaly different because 98% of early Black R&R bands had an upright Bass including the early White R&R stars, Elvis (Bill Black) Buddy Holly (Joe B Mauldin) Rock bands without exception have Bass Guitars.