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[Get Real!]

I am perfectly willing to consider the Belgium model. In case you are not sure Belgium DOES exist elsewhere and it IS democratic.

Sure. On the condition that under TC control will be only the villages that TCs are the legal majority. Interesting however that you choose that as model, does it have anything to do with the fact that Belgium could collapse soon?

And not to mention that the Belgian ethnic ratio is 60:40; much more balanced than the ridiculous 80:20 of Cyprus!

[Piratis]

I am perfectly willing to consider the Belgium model. In case you are not sure Belgium DOES exist elsewhere and it IS democratic.

Sure. On the condition that under TC control will be only the villages that TCs are the legal majority. Interesting however that you choose that as model, does it have anything to do with the fact that Belgium could collapse soon?

And not to mention that the Belgian ethnic ratio is 60:40; much more balanced than the ridiculous 80:20 of Cyprus!

82:18 to be exact.

Maybe we should consider what they have in Turkey as well, between Turks and Kurds, since the ratio there is 80:20 which is much closer to what we have in Cyprus, and I am sure no TC can claim that what they have in Turkey is not democratic

[Get Real!]

Please go back and read carefully what is written in this thread about these documents by myself. There also exists an offer there which no one has yet answered. Feel free to address it.

Obviously because nobody is interested in offering you a prize for something you should've supplied in the first place called EVIDENCE every time you make a claim.

I can't for the life of me understand why you still go on about this when the CyProb "rules" are very clear, understood, and observed by everyone else. Would you like me to do a democratic poll to sort this out once and for all? ie:

"Should a CyProb debater not have to supply evidence to his/her claims?"

...or if you like...

"Should everyone just take Murataga's word for any political claims he may make regardless of how crazy they may sound?"

Take your pick!

[Sotos]

Belgium could collapse. I heard that on Euronews some time ago. They said what is keeping them together is the Brussels region that is mixed.

[Get Real!]

Belgium could collapse. I heard that on Euronews some time ago. They said what is keeping them together is the Brussels region that is mixed.

It goes to show what I've been saying all along that all these political arrangements that revolve around ethnicities are nothing but partitionistic garbage!

Countries like the US, Australia, and the UK handle DOZENS of ethnicities via good old fashioned DEMOCRACY! The only method that works and the ONLY way forward for Cyprus period!

[phoenix]

Belgium could collapse. I heard that on Euronews some time ago. They said what is keeping them together is the Brussels region that is mixed.

Where did all this SPROUT from????

Pip-pip
Phoenix

[MR-from-NG]

I pick...............take Murataga's word for any political claims he may make regardless of how crazy they may sound?"

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, I was given a choice wasn't I?

On a serious note, Murataga tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Isn't this what is expected from all decent Cypriots?

[Get Real!]

I pick...............take Murataga's word for any political claims he may make regardless of how crazy they may sound?"

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, I was given a choice wasn't I?

Well, you’re obviously already exercising that! It's called "unconditional love" dear MR-from-NG and it's the kind of "magical" stuff that yields a spoilt little rotter like Murataga!

On a serious note, Murataga tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Isn't this what is expected from all decent Cypriots?

Pass...

[Pyrpolizer]

Tut tut tut...

I have not even mentioned the word "cancer" out of politeness.
I have already wished you are OK... and what did I receive in return?:shock:

The relevance is if you attended university 40 years ago I cannot trust your hand written notes unless I see the full documents or copies of them (in image format)

Remember you were claiming similar distortions in the past until I found a hard copy of the document and showed to you.

Here's by post:

The concept of political equality was always targeted by the TC side to justify partition.
On the other hand the GC side said, sure, in a Federation you will have the political equality you want. To avoid any misunderstanding the concept of THIS Political equality within the Federation was clarified thus:






So Murataga, the concept of Political equality will come from the fact that we accepted Federation (as cleearly defined by the UN) and NOT because you have any politically equal seperate country, otherwise the UN would define it as such.

This kind of post was really unnecessary. I didn`t claim that YOU used that information against me yet somehow you found it offensive. Anyways - check your PM so we don`t get tangled up in this any further.

What I claimed in the past was political equality per U.N. and beacuse you wrote here what political equality per U.N. is you are claiming to have found out a "distortion". By the way, what you gave above contains nothing but what you youself wrote/quoted. Please provide the exact link so that everyone sees that I defended political equality per U.N. in the begining and stood by it to the end.

As far as:

The relevance is if you attended university 40 years ago I cannot trust your hand written notes unless I see the full documents or copies of them (in image format)

I am having a difficult time making sense out of this. So if I attended university 40 years ago you cannot trust my hand written notes unless you see the full documents or copies of them (in image format) but you can if I attended lat year? Anyways... Please go back and read carefully what is written in this thread about these documents by myself. There also exists an offer there which no one has yet answered. Feel free to address it.

a)On the contrary. When you were making claims for political equality you were making those claims as if you were a separate country. Go back and see for yourself. Up until that day you were not claiming political equality as explained/clarified by the UN, you were saying the UN says we must be politically equal, therefore if it says so, this means we are politically equal as a separate country ALREADY. These were the sort of sophistries you were doing in the past....

b) Yes I would trust your copies if you attended last year, but surely 40 years ago there were no Xerox machines therefore I cannot trust your handwritten notes.

[Sotos]

I think photocopiers existed 40 years ago. But I don't think Murataga would know how to use one