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[humanist]

this is what I recently read and loved, "compromise to please others is not a good as integrity that annoys others"

[halil]

President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that his meeting with the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos which is scheduled to take place on the 5th of September will be a great success if it turns into an important step towards reaching a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem.

Stating that the Turkish Cypriot Side will constitute a formula to reach the final objective, Mr Talat said this formula will be depending on the Greek Cypriot Side’s approval, and the final decision will be made together with the Greek Cypriot Side.

In an interview with the Anatolian News Agency, President Mehmet Ali Talat expressed the need for aiming to make necessary arrangements in order to move forward to comprehensive negotiations with the participation of two leaders.

Making it clear that he will not put any preconditions before the meeting, Mr Talat said, during the meeting, the two leaders will make decisions on how to fill the gaps once their final objective is defined.

‘My aim is to find a short way for moving forward the 8 July process into its final objective’ the President said.

Referring to the claims by the Greek Cypriot media which say Mr Talat does not want an intensive timetable and arbitration, Mr Talat said these claims are completely unrealistic.

Meanwhile, the Speaker of the Greek Cypriot Parliament and the Secretary General of AKEL, Dimitris Hristofyas has asked for a separate meeting with President Mehmet Ali Talat.

According to the Greek Cypriot Simerini Newspaper, Mr Hristofyas, who argues that the Cyprus problem is a matter of occupation, expressed his wish for reaching positive outcomes following the meeting between President Talat and the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos.

[humanist]

I think if Talat is even wanting to consider an intensive time table and arbitration it would be silly for Papadopoulos not to accept. It is time to put this problem as the priority that it deserves, it would require backwards and forwards negotiating. if they both agree on a BBF Solution then they have that common ground to begin from, then it should be working out on what that BBF looks like. easy peassy

[Pyrpolizer]

President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that his meeting with the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos which is scheduled to take place on the 5th of September will be a great success if it turns into an important step towards reaching a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem.

Stating that the Turkish Cypriot Side will constitute a formula to reach the final objective, Mr Talat said this formula will be depending on the Greek Cypriot Side’s approval, and the final decision will be made together with the Greek Cypriot Side.

In an interview with the Anatolian News Agency, President Mehmet Ali Talat expressed the need for aiming to make necessary arrangements in order to move forward to comprehensive negotiations with the participation of two leaders.

Making it clear that he will not put any preconditions before the meeting, Mr Talat said, during the meeting, the two leaders will make decisions on how to fill the gaps once their final objective is defined.

‘My aim is to find a short way for moving forward the 8 July process into its final objective’ the President said.

Referring to the claims by the Greek Cypriot media which say Mr Talat does not want an intensive timetable and arbitration, Mr Talat said these claims are completely unrealistic.

Meanwhile, the Speaker of the Greek Cypriot Parliament and the Secretary General of AKEL, Dimitris Hristofyas has asked for a separate meeting with President Mehmet Ali Talat.

According to the Greek Cypriot Simerini Newspaper, Mr Hristofyas, who argues that the Cyprus problem is a matter of occupation, expressed his wish for reaching positive outcomes following the meeting between President Talat and the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos.

Hey Halil Mr Spokesman of Mehmet Ali Talat,

Can I ask a question or should I just accept your job is only copy pasting from Bayrak:

Is Talat trying to overthrow the 8th July agreement by reducing it to a summary? Do you think there is any chance Papadopoulos will ever accept?

[Pyrpolizer]

Humanist sorry but he had summaries before. Even the BBF is a summary agreement which everybody (and each side) translates at will.
I personally want everything to be discussed and agreed in it's finest detail. Even if that will take time and even if they finally agree on less number of topics.

If I ever see such a vague/contradictory/suspetible to a million interpretations document like the Anan Plan I will become a TURK.

[Pyrpolizer]

Although I must admit Talat's sayings seem honest, in that it seems he wants a quick solution, I really am suspicious on the fact that so far the 8th July agreement hasn't even moved one inch.

If Talat were indeed honest, he should have already made every effort in pushing the 8th July agreement forward, and thus PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt, that process is slow or not.
So far he's done nothing!

[erolz]

Respect means to respect our rights.

Just as you define democracy to mean GC as a community must have the right to decide all of Cyprus' and all Cypriots future asa community with no effectvie regard for the wishes of the TC community as a community, so you define repesct to mean I must give you what you want according to your defintions of who gets rights like the right to self determination. You defined yourself as Greek and thus not the same people as me and then you inisit only GC have a right to self determination as a people in Cyprus and not the same people as me and then you say I and my community have no such rights in their shared homeland as a people. This is not a demand for respect it is a demand for the submission of my communites rights to yours.

What you gained is not their respect. They just like you for the same reasons that a master likes his most submissive slaves.

Respect is earned, not demanded. Bannaiot earns respect by being able to admit that GC leaderships and community played their part , by their own choices, in the situation we have today. He earns respect by being willing to show up and meet in person and not hide behind a keyboard in order to DO SOMETHING to try and break down seperation and barriers, not seek to increase them like some coward behind annoymous forum postings. He earns respect by DOING THINGS not just endless talking. When some of us tried to work togeather as CYPRIOTS, despite our differences, to do something togeather that was positive, like cleaning up a neglected cemetary in Kyrenia /Girne, Bannaiot was there ready willing and able to work to do that. You on the other hand , from behind your annoymous keyboard could do no more than condem such an effort on the basis that it was 'harmful' because

It would be much harder to kill you if we know you, which is probably your aim, to make it harder for us to reclaim our 100% legal rights. This is why it is harmful.

You get exactly the level of respect from em that your words and lack of actions deserve, as does Bannaniot.

[halil]

President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that his meeting with the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos which is scheduled to take place on the 5th of September will be a great success if it turns into an important step towards reaching a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem.

Stating that the Turkish Cypriot Side will constitute a formula to reach the final objective, Mr Talat said this formula will be depending on the Greek Cypriot Side’s approval, and the final decision will be made together with the Greek Cypriot Side.

In an interview with the Anatolian News Agency, President Mehmet Ali Talat expressed the need for aiming to make necessary arrangements in order to move forward to comprehensive negotiations with the participation of two leaders.

Making it clear that he will not put any preconditions before the meeting, Mr Talat said, during the meeting, the two leaders will make decisions on how to fill the gaps once their final objective is defined.

‘My aim is to find a short way for moving forward the 8 July process into its final objective’ the President said.

Referring to the claims by the Greek Cypriot media which say Mr Talat does not want an intensive timetable and arbitration, Mr Talat said these claims are completely unrealistic.

Meanwhile, the Speaker of the Greek Cypriot Parliament and the Secretary General of AKEL, Dimitris Hristofyas has asked for a separate meeting with President Mehmet Ali Talat.

According to the Greek Cypriot Simerini Newspaper, Mr Hristofyas, who argues that the Cyprus problem is a matter of occupation, expressed his wish for reaching positive outcomes following the meeting between President Talat and the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos.

Hey Halil Mr Spokesman of Mehmet Ali Talat,

Can I ask a question or should I just accept your job is only copy pasting from Bayrak:

Is Talat trying to overthrow the 8th July agreement by reducing it to a summary? Do you think there is any chance Papadopoulos will ever accept?

Hey Pyro Mr sposkesman of Papadopulos.
your man does only show off for the presential elections we all know his ideas.u all know what we are all thinking.best thing is to stop playing with words try to understand bananiot he is on the right track , after this u will attack him . it will be too late , when u understand , what he is trying to tell . İn our side we passed this stage , it used to be like that , who ever was talking about peace they were calling him Greek lover . thats what u are doing now.

u are questioning my job , how about u ? what u are doing ? as far as i am working on the broadcasting sector. i am trying to talk from otherside of the coin. i don't have to talk that u can like it . i read your and others as well , i don't complain , if u are beliving the democracy let the people to say what they feel .

[humanist]

Pyr, I think they need to find common ground and start working from there, here are two opposites trying to connect and the force is sslowing the down. Whereas if they find that comon ground it is easy to work with. My belief is that the problem stems from the resistance on both sides letting go of this notion that there is a Greek/ Turkish seaking Cypriots, as opposed to Cypriots. You figure it out with only Cypriots then a true people's government will aspire to build a great nation for its people regardless of what is now perceived an ethnic war. Surely even after 500 years, the turkish speaking Cypriots are just that and after a few more the greek speaking Cypriots are just that. And what a great era to unify the people together that this century, to allow future gebnerations of Cypriot youth to integrate, communicate and facilitate change, a change for the betterment of all Cypriots in all domains of life and not just territory.

I personally could not see a Cyprus without the presence of turkish Cypriot influence, that is a big part of my culture that I know very little about and would love to learn more

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey Pyro Mr sposkesman of Papadopulos.
your man does only show off for the presential elections we all know his ideas.u all know what we are all thinking.best thing is to stop playing with words try to understand bananiot he is on the right track , after this u will attack him . it will be too late , when u understand , what he is trying to tell . İn our side we passed this stage , it used to be like that , who ever was talking about peace they were calling him Greek lover . thats what u are doing now.

u are questioning my job , how about u ? what u are doing ? as far as i am working on the broadcasting sector. i am trying to talk from otherside of the coin. i don't have to talk that u can like it . i read your and others as well , i don't complain , if u are beliving the democracy let the people to say what they feel .

Do I copy paste the speeches of Papadopoulos like you do all the time?
Do i copy paste articles without even saying my opinion like you do all the time?

I asked you a question regarding the essence of your post. So far your answer is "I DON'T KNOW".

So what is your job in here, if you have absolutely no opinion on what you copy paste? a)To praise Bananiot ? b)To play us the wise guy who can teach us lessons? or c)To just liter the forum with newspaper clippings?