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[Bananiot]

I am extremely proud to be able to gain the appreciation and trust of my fellow countrymen. This is the only way to go forward, is't it? Do you think you can discredit me by pointing out that Turkish Cypriots feel comfortable with me? You are just as bad as the Archbishop and the rest of the bigots who think that the word "Turk" is a dirty word.

Turkey, by the way, would have never ventured to come to Cyprus if it were not for our myopic policies in the 50's, 60's and early 70's. We also made Denktash as well as TMT. We laid a bed of roses for them and here is you arguing that we brought Greece and you cannot see that this is part of the reason Turkey is here today!

[Kifeas]

No Pyrpolyser, whatever anyone says. The fact of the matter is WE brought Turkey here. Is this so difficult to understand?

I have never heard so far a more provocative and a more insulting single sentence on behalf of any Greek Cypriot!

It is unbelievable the degree of corruption and moral degradation to which a certain section of the Greek Cypriot society have literally fallen! It is even more frightening, considering that certain such individuals are also "teaching" students in high schools, instead of having been locked in some asylum!

Can you at least Bananiot tell us who is the "we" that you are referring too! Are you at least (hopefully) referring only to you and our Anglo-American friends and their CIA fascist cronies here, in Greece and in Turkey? Give me some hope Bananiot!

[Bananiot]

Poor, miserable Kifeas! Do you really think you can intimidate me?

[Kifeas]

Poor, miserable Kifeas! Do you really think you can intimidate me?

No, I do not try to intimidate you! It is pointless to intimidate a schizophrenic!

[Bananiot]

In that case be careful, its catchy!

[humanist]

Baniot, can I ask a question? I hear when you say you had invited Turkey to intervene.. 2004 has also seen a referendum for unification. If Turkish speaking Cypriots are pro unification as Talat points out. Then in good faith for their struggle for unification are they willing to substitute the so called Turkish protection of a strong 40,000 troops with a UN convoy? If this meant that you get protection and the Greek speaking Cypriots feel safer by not having Turkey in the middle. It will also then force Papadopoulos to only negotiate with Turkish speaking Cypriot leadership hence community directly. Surely you are concrned about safety not necessarily who provides that safety right? To this end the Greek military presence also withdraws at the same time the Turkish one does.

[denizaksulu]

In 2003 tens of thousands of Turkish Cypriots were demonstrating for a solution to the Cyprob (some of them brandishing RoC flags) calling for the resignation of Denktash. We remained in our homes and watched in fear as our compatriots tore out an idol who seemed untouchable until then and demanded solution to a problem that supposedly had been solved in 1974. During this crucial period we had the bad luck to have as our President an outright rejectionist. Repeating the stupid mistakes of the past we started sending the wrong type of signals to the Turkish Cypriots and eventually we threw a NO to their face which was interpreted as "bugger off, we do not want you". Once again we sent them reeling to the warm embrace of mother Turkey and brought partition a lot closer.

Just because the Turkish Cypriots held 2-3 anti-Denktash demonstrations in 2003 you think the GC community forgot all about the THREE DECADES of Denktash politics and the OVERWHELMING SUPPORT for the greater part of that period from the TC community, whom today you are trying to portray as poor victims who were “reaching out”?

No, no, no, no… it doesn’t work like that my friend because post-war Cyprus starts from Aug1974 and not 2003!

What did the TC community do in the period of Aug 74…2003 to EARN any support and/or sympathy from the GC community apart from raising a couple of RoC flags during those demonstrations three decades on and upon sensing EU membership?

Perhaps the TC community foolishly assumed in 2003 that all is Ok now 30 years on because the 200,000 odd GC refugees have disappeared, the 5,000 odd GC dead have been raised, the many wounded healed, the scarred miraculously cured, and the memories of all the above magically wiped clean…

I’ll remind you all that even to this day there is STILL a mother traversing the planet looking for her now 35 year old STOLEN son!!! This is but ONE of the thousands of horror stories from July 1974 that all these people above have had bottled up inside them for 30 years and they could probably fill up 10 bloody DVDs!

Today in yet another slap in the face, Bananiot is asking “Why didn’t the people above rush to the border, or encourage their government to aid and/or support this community in 2003?”

The answer to that Bananiot is that only somebody who DID NOT experience July 1974, and the subsequent pain of the next three decades could possibly wonder why…

Take your alleged war crimes up with Turkey. What did we do to deserve to live sealed in enclaves deprived even of medical supplies, get butchered, ambargoed and ejected from the government for 11 years before 1974? The answer is simple and it is written in the hearts and mind of any TC that went through that horrible era: We refused ENOSIS and we refused to give up our rights in a partnership state in which you and we agreed to establish in the first place. For this we got ejected from the government, we got enclaved, we got murdered, we got ambargoed and we got full-scale military attacks from the Greek-Army which your leader invited to this island before any Turkish soldier was present. And now you are painting us as criminals because we managed survive that ordeal and have set up a perimeter which you can not breach to go on with what you started. You were violating our rights before 1974, don’t act like this is about 1974. 1974 is nothing but the time when we started to manage living outside the enclaves like humans once again, and for that you have the nerve to call us criminals. But now that you are unable to do anything other than embargo us you are miserable. But blame no one, for it is your greed and racist nature that has brought you your own misery. Should you learn from your mistakes and start to respect our security and existence in this island, should you pay back for what you have stolen, which is our political rights, and what you have usurped which is the RoC government, should you come and beg for mercy and forgiveness from every TC that you have made to suffer for the past 44 years, and should every TC forgives you, than we might have something to talk about for a solution. Other than that, all bets are off.

In short YOU ARE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT TURKEY here. Fullstop.

So we can ignore the coup against Pres Makarios? The Junta pulled the trigger and weve been here before.

[aapapa]

Baniot, can I ask a question? I hear when you say you had invited Turkey to intervene.. 2004 has also seen a referendum for unification. If Turkish speaking Cypriots are pro unification as Talat points out. Then in good faith for their struggle for unification are they willing to substitute the so called Turkish protection of a strong 40,000 troops with a UN convoy? If this meant that you get protection and the Greek speaking Cypriots feel safer by not having Turkey in the middle. It will also then force Papadopoulos to only negotiate with Turkish speaking Cypriot leadership hence community directly. Surely you are concrned about safety not necessarily who provides that safety right? To this end the Greek military presence also withdraws at the same time the Turkish one does.

And it's mainly because of these 40,000 'peace keepers' that the Anan plan was voted down.

[MR-from-NG]

I am extremely proud to be able to gain the appreciation and trust of my fellow countrymen. This is the only way to go forward, is't it? Do you think you can discredit me by pointing out that Turkish Cypriots feel comfortable with me? You are just as bad as the Archbishop and the rest of the bigots who think that the word "Turk" is a dirty word.

Turkey, by the way, would have never ventured to come to Cyprus if it were not for our myopic policies in the 50's, 60's and early 70's. We also made Denktash as well as TMT. We laid a bed of roses for them and here is you arguing that we brought Greece and you cannot see that this is part of the reason Turkey is here today!

Bananiot for president of the RoC.

Kifeas, If there was ever hope in re-unification of our beautiful island of Cyprus it would be realised with the likes of Bananiot. With people like you around we don't have a hope in hell.

[Pyrpolizer]

MR-FROM-NG,

you already have the likes of Bananiot. Vote Fanos for president next time