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[Bananiot]

Okay, you too ...

[Get Real!]

This man is such a liar and a partitionist and Turkish speaking Cypriots need to look closer to home when blaming. Blame him not the RoC.

Where as TP tells only the truth and can bear no blame for the state Cyprus is in today or for the continuation of that state.

But the thread is not talking about TP dear Erol...
Can't we have one about Talat for once?

[74LB]

I've just come back from a month in the TRNC and must agree that the article reflects the current feeling of the TC's I met. Most are now disenchanted after the referendum vote back in 2004 and are convinced that neither comminity is working towards a solution.

The feeling I get is that the two communities will remain seperate till kingdom come. Sad but true imo.

[Kifeas]

I've just come back from a month in the TRNC and must agree that the article reflects the current feeling of the TC's I met. Most are now disenchanted after the referendum vote back in 2004 and are convinced that neither comminity is working towards a solution.

The feeling I get is that the two communities will remain seperate till kingdom come. Sad but true imo.

That of course also proves how fake those massive "demonstrations" were, right before the referendums, as well as the TC “yes” to the Annan plan; and how right the GCs were to have remained cautious and sceptical of that sudden “change!”

[Piratis]

Piratis, does this really bother you, if Talat has the illusion that he is the President of a country? I wonder, should we be talking to this fellow if he is such a liar? Isn't this a good excuse to condemn him to iternal hell?

If there is Hell then he is already condemned.

And no, there is no really point in talking with puppets. Any such talks will be just part of the game we are forced to play and could not possibly have any positive result first because Talat will not accept anything less than partition, and secondly because even if he would personally accept something else, those that control him like a puppet would not let him.

[zan]

I've just come back from a month in the TRNC and must agree that the article reflects the current feeling of the TC's I met. Most are now disenchanted after the referendum vote back in 2004 and are convinced that neither comminity is working towards a solution.

The feeling I get is that the two communities will remain seperate till kingdom come. Sad but true imo.

That of course also proves how fake those massive "demonstrations" were, right before the referendums, as well as the TC “yes” to the Annan plan; and how right the GCs were to have remained cautious and sceptical of that sudden “change!”

HUH!

[stuballstu]

I've just come back from a month in the TRNC and must agree that the article reflects the current feeling of the TC's I met. Most are now disenchanted after the referendum vote back in 2004 and are convinced that neither comminity is working towards a solution.

The feeling I get is that the two communities will remain seperate till kingdom come. Sad but true imo.

That of course also proves how fake those massive "demonstrations" were, right before the referendums, as well as the TC “yes” to the Annan plan; and how right the GCs were to have remained cautious and sceptical of that sudden “change!”

Kifeas

What a load of nonsense.

TC's attitudes have changed in the 3 years since the referendum. The EU promised aid and direct trade, it took so long to get the aid due to the objections of the GC side and direct trade is as far away now as it was then. Your TC cousins have watched their GC cousins prosper under EU admission and also watch the EU not keep the promised they made for a "yes" vote. It has taken the upcoming elections in the ROC for Papadopolous to ask to meet Talat and to date has not said what changes should be made to the Annan plan in order for it to be accepted by the GC community.

Like it or not after all these years partition is looking more realistic as every day goes on but then again in traditional Cypriot mannerism it will be the evil Turk loving Americans, the Brits, the UN, the Chinese, the Russians, the eskimos on the North Pole, the eskimos on the South Pole or anyone else but themselves to blame who they will see as anti Hellenic.

[zan]

Piratis, does this really bother you, if Talat has the illusion that he is the President of a country? I wonder, should we be talking to this fellow if he is such a liar? Isn't this a good excuse to condemn him to iternal hell?

If there is Hell then he is already condemned.

And no, there is no really point in talking with puppets. Any such talks will be just part of the game we are forced to play and could not possibly have any positive result first because Talat will not accept anything less than partition, and secondly because even if he would personally accept something else, those that control him like a puppet would not let him.

If you read the article and then at least try to understand it, it says that that puppet is the best friend you have got. The people are starting to see through your rubbish and he cannot fool them anymore. Not that he really wants to...Surrender to your unreasonable terms is not an option.

[74LB]

I've just come back from a month in the TRNC and must agree that the article reflects the current feeling of the TC's I met. Most are now disenchanted after the referendum vote back in 2004 and are convinced that neither comminity is working towards a solution.

The feeling I get is that the two communities will remain seperate till kingdom come. Sad but true imo.

That of course also proves how fake those massive "demonstrations" were, right before the referendums, as well as the TC “yes” to the Annan plan; and how right the GCs were to have remained cautious and sceptical of that sudden “change!”

Believe me, the demonstrations were genuine and the TC 'yes' vote was genuine. Times however change.

stuballustu hit the nail on the head with his respone......

TC's attitudes have changed in the 3 years since the referendum. The EU promised aid and direct trade, it took so long to get the aid due to the objections of the GC side and direct trade is as far away now as it was then. Your TC cousins have watched their GC cousins prosper under EU admission and also watch the EU not keep the promised they made for a "yes" vote. It has taken the upcoming elections in the ROC for Papadopolous to ask to meet Talat and to date has not said what changes should be made to the Annan plan in order for it to be accepted by the GC community.

Like it or not after all these years partition is looking more realistic as every day goes on but then again in traditional Cypriot mannerism it will be the evil Turk loving Americans, the Brits, the UN, the Chinese, the Russians, the eskimos on the North Pole, the eskimos on the South Pole or anyone else but themselves to blame who they will see as anti Hellenic.

[Viewpoint]

I've just come back from a month in the TRNC and must agree that the article reflects the current feeling of the TC's I met. Most are now disenchanted after the referendum vote back in 2004 and are convinced that neither comminity is working towards a solution.

The feeling I get is that the two communities will remain seperate till kingdom come. Sad but true imo.

That of course also proves how fake those massive "demonstrations" were, right before the referendums, as well as the TC “yes” to the Annan plan; and how right the GCs were to have remained cautious and sceptical of that sudden “change!”

Kifeas

What a load of nonsense.

TC's attitudes have changed in the 3 years since the referendum. The EU promised aid and direct trade, it took so long to get the aid due to the objections of the GC side and direct trade is as far away now as it was then. Your TC cousins have watched their GC cousins prosper under EU admission and also watch the EU not keep the promised they made for a "yes" vote. It has taken the upcoming elections in the ROC for Papadopolous to ask to meet Talat and to date has not said what changes should be made to the Annan plan in order for it to be accepted by the GC community.

Like it or not after all these years partition is looking more realistic as every day goes on but then again in traditional Cypriot mannerism it will be the evil Turk loving Americans, the Brits, the UN, the Chinese, the Russians, the eskimos on the North Pole, the eskimos on the South Pole or anyone else but themselves to blame who they will see as anti Hellenic.

Great post well done...you are so right.