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[Pyrpolizer]

50% of the job of ANY developer is to locate possible owners of pieces of land, who would like to sell.The TC owners (most of them living in England) are easy to convince, the problem is how to find them. That particular company I talked about, pays people in the UK to find the TC owners and talk to them....

[zan]

I called a few friends in Larnaca, they told me there have been indeed sales of TC land by the TCs themselves. Like I said before TCs who left Cyprus before 1974 can sell their properties without any problem....

In fact there are some developers who "specialize" in locating those expats and buying their lands. There is one very well known such developer in Larnaca, but I am afraid I can't give his name publicly, anyone interested please send me a PM.

The same was happening with GC land in the North and the "RoC" stepped in to stop it.....I still have had no one tell me what happened to that politician that got sacked for telling the GCs that it was not illegal to sell their land to who ever they liked

[Pyrpolizer]

What are you talking about man?
What same???

a) Are we talking for GCs who emigrated BEFORE 1974, like the case is for those TCs who can get their properties back?
b)Are we talking for unconditional return of properties to the real owners to do whatever they like with them, including living in it, developing it, renting it, or even sell it?

Are you totally unable to see the difference?

What GC Politician was sacked? Give us a name. Nobody was sacked.
Everybody can tell his opinion. If he is right or wrong remains to be seen.

[zan]

What are you talking about man?
What same???

a) Are we talking for GCs who emigrated BEFORE 1974, like the case is for those TCs who can get their properties back?
b)Are we talking for unconditional return of properties to the real owners to do whatever they like with them, including living in it, developing it, renting it, or even sell it?

Are you totally unable to see the difference?

What GC Politician was sacked? Give us a name. Nobody was sacked.
Everybody can tell his opinion. If he is right or wrong remains to be seen.

Why are you being so specific?

Land is land and an owner is an owner. Refugees that tried to sell their property were stopped and that has been reported all through the period so stop acting as if you do not know what I am talking about...The same thing goes for the politician....I posted the news article a while back and I am sure that there are GCs here that know his name. I hope Halil might even be able to help you if you really don't know.


I do have to ask you though; do you really believe that everyone is allowed to say and do what they want and there is no censorship going on in the South? Please say you don't

[stuballstu]

Btw so far I have not yet received any brochures or info from Stuballstu..... not even the names of the alleged Agents

This rasises my suspicion as to what the REAL purpose of some people in this forum is.
Spread THE IDEA perhaps?

Pyrpolizer

I have had to go back to the UK due to a family illness hence the reason I have not been on any bb. However I did say previously I would be back in Paphos in a few weeks time. I will give you the documents from the agents whom we speaked to with the developments and you can check it out yourself. I will pm you and make necessary arrangements.

My opinions on selling refugees property are well known. I DO NOT agree with it, I think it is morally and legally wrong. I am not spreading some idea, why would an agent tell me that the houses we were looking at are being built on TC land?

You can have as many suspicions about me as possible. I do very much refrain from getting involved in "political" slanging matches as they serve very little purpose to the issues in Cyprus. Most of the threads on this board end up with a "my dads willie is bigger than your dads willie" type arguement. If you look back through this thread you are the only person who is disputing what I said. Many GC's on this forum have chose to ignore what I have posted about the developing of refugee land instead they concentrate on what is happening on the TC side. Would that be because it goes against everything they have ever been told?

As i have said previously you can not say don't visit the "occupied" side but come and land in Larnaca airport partly which is built on land owned by a TC refugee. And please dont go into one of those "public works" paragraphs. Why do they not just give the TC his money and be done with it.

[humanist]

Stubalstu , I question why you chose to include your last sentence.

[humanist]

Stubalstu , I question why you chose to include your last sentence. Why have you not spoken of the right sof GC's refugees to have access to teir properties if you are so fair as to request the compensation for the TC, if you feel so strongly about it why are you choosing to land @ Larnaca?

[stuballstu]

Stubalstu , I question why you chose to include your last sentence. Why have you not spoken of the right sof GC's refugees to have access to teir properties if you are so fair as to request the compensation for the TC, if you feel so strongly about it why are you choosing to land @ Larnaca?

I think all refugees should have the rights to access or be compensated for their properties. Unfortunately in my opinion it is not going to happen that way. The tangled web of the Cyprus problem is deeply knotted and went on so long that some refugees will not want to return, some can't etc etc.

As for refugees who's land has been used for "public works" they are never going to have the right of return, so why not compensate them now?

As for me landing at Larnaca I don't have a personal issue. Much in the same way when I am walking around Kyrenia i don't ask if the pavement I am walking on belongs to a GC. What my point is that many GC's actively deter anyone visiting the "north" as most of it belonged to GC however don't mind landing in someone else's land. For me its double standards.

There is so much intransigence on both sides. The ROC government have been telling refugees what they have wanted to hear for the last god knows how many years. Talat and co say they want unification but every so often come out with one day the world will recognise us. Recognition for the TRNC?? There is as much chance as Anorthosis Famagusta winning the champions league.

It has always puzzled me why Papadopolous doesn't invite Talat to take his seat on the ROC government as the elected representative of the TC's as per the 1960 constitution? He would see how united Talat wanted Cyprus to be at that point

[Viewpoint]

Stubalstu , I question why you chose to include your last sentence. Why have you not spoken of the right sof GC's refugees to have access to teir properties if you are so fair as to request the compensation for the TC, if you feel so strongly about it why are you choosing to land @ Larnaca?

I think all refugees should have the rights to access or be compensated for their properties. Unfortunately in my opinion it is not going to happen that way. The tangled web of the Cyprus problem is deeply knotted and went on so long that some refugees will not want to return, some can't etc etc.

As for refugees who's land has been used for "public works" they are never going to have the right of return, so why not compensate them now?

As for me landing at Larnaca I don't have a personal issue. Much in the same way when I am walking around Kyrenia i don't ask if the pavement I am walking on belongs to a GC. What my point is that many GC's actively deter anyone visiting the "north" as most of it belonged to GC however don't mind landing in someone else's land. For me its double standards.

There is so much intransigence on both sides. The ROC government have been telling refugees what they have wanted to hear for the last god knows how many years. Talat and co say they want unification but every so often come out with one day the world will recognise us. Recognition for the TRNC?? There is as much chance as Anorthosis Famagusta winning the champions league.

It has always puzzled me why Papadopolous doesn't invite Talat to take his seat on the ROC government as the elected representative of the TC's as per the 1960 constitution? He would see how united Talat wanted Cyprus to be at that point

You miss the point totally, Tassos does not want to share anything he has 90% of what he wants why compromise this for a few silly refugees who have been duped into thinking they will go home for years?

I really feel that due to GC policies and the EU angle now involved monitoring GC intrangience the TRNC has much better odds of being gradually recognized than Anorthosis Famagusta winning the champions league.


If GCs want more of the past 5 years which obviously they do then they will vote Papadop back into power.

[Nikitas]

VP,

For those that dont like Tassos, what hope is there? Remember the Vassiliou presidency? Goerge Vassiliou was willing to talk about anything, if it was going to get dialog going, and willing to concede big time, and where did that get the Greek Cypriot side? Nowhere really. So blaming things on the personality of the Greek Cypriot leader sounds to many Cypriots like a cover for the hardline approach Turkey has assumed since 1974. There is always a reason not to concentrate on the substance of the issue and find side shows to delay and postpone.