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[Pyrpolizer]

Bill on the other hand I am suspicious of your effort to tell me "hey it's nothing even close to what is happening in the occupied". Do you realize that once this is actually true, there is no limit to where it will stop? And that in no time the situation will escalate, and we will eventually end up worse criminals than those in the occupied?

[Pyrpolizer]

Btw so far I have not yet received any brochures or info from Stuballstu..... not even the names of the alleged Agents

This rasises my suspicion as to what the REAL purpose of some people in this forum is.
Spread THE IDEA perhaps?

[zan]

Zan

100% of GC's have had no say in what happens when their land is being exploited and sold to foreigners in the north.

Bill

Is that the wrong that makes it right in the South then? If it is wrong then it should be wrong there also. We do not have the luxury of trading with the world and promoting ourselves so what we get we are thankful for...What is the excuse in the South.

[Kifeas]

Bill I am very sorry but this is a serious issue. You said before that
"Only GC refugees can take advantage of this scheme and the land can never be sold as there are no deeds" meaning that there was actually a scheme for GCs forwarded by the government itself to build on TC land on the condition they would never get deeds.

Now you say in just one village you know there have been 100 cases where they builted some really marvelous houses on TC Land following the Government "scheme"!! Which village is that?

Believe me that’s news to me and I will be shocked if that’s really true.

ANY GC IN HERE WHO CAN CONFIRM THIS?

Yes, it is true that a relatively small number of self-financed housing settlements for GC refugees were in fact built on TC owned property. This was a policy for a short period of time during the early 80's (stupid Kyprianou government,) which was later on abandoned after foreseen all the negatives that we observe today, due to the fact that those GC refugees cannot realise their investments. Fortunately it involves only a small number of families (perhaps around 500 all around Cyprus) and a relatively very small proportion of TC owned land.

If one considers than each house plot takes around 400 sq. meters of space and add to that another 20% for road and pavement space, the total area will not be more than 180, say 200 donums of land. Comparing this to the total amount of TC owned land in the non-occupied areas, i.e. some 450,000 donums, we are only talking about 0.045% of it.

As I said, this policy was abandoned relatively soon in the 80's, and is definitely not practiced today!

[Pyrpolizer]

Many thanks Kifeas.

[Bill]

Bill on the other hand I am suspicious of your effort to tell me "hey it's nothing even close to what is happening in the occupied". Do you realize that once this is actually true, there is no limit to where it will stop? And that in no time the situation will escalate, and we will eventually end up worse criminals than those in the occupied?

There is a hell of a difference to what is happening in the occupied north .

TC land in the ROC is not being sold !!!!
GC land in the occupied north IS being sold to everyone and any one that is stupid enough to buy it

They way things are going with efforts to achieve a solution and the obvious reluctance of the TC's and settlers to let go of the land they were given plus the Greek side wanting what is theirs back I can't see anything positive happening for the next 50 years.

Bill

[Pyrpolizer]

I called a few friends in Larnaca, they told me there have been indeed sales of TC land by the TCs themselves. Like I said before TCs who left Cyprus before 1974 can sell their properties without any problem....

In fact there are some developers who "specialize" in locating those expats and buying their lands. There is one very well known such developer in Larnaca, but I am afraid I can't give his name publicly, anyone interested please send me a PM.

[Viewpoint]

Bill on the other hand I am suspicious of your effort to tell me "hey it's nothing even close to what is happening in the occupied". Do you realize that once this is actually true, there is no limit to where it will stop? And that in no time the situation will escalate, and we will eventually end up worse criminals than those in the occupied?

There is a hell of a difference to what is happening in the occupied north .

TC land in the ROC is not being sold !!!!
GC land in the occupied north IS being sold to everyone and any one that is stupid enough to buy it

They way things are going with efforts to achieve a solution and the obvious reluctance of the TC's and settlers to let go of the land they were given plus the Greek side wanting what is theirs back I can't see anything positive happening for the next 50 years.

Bill

The only people that have not realized this is the GCs they still feel their current policies will give them what they want a GC state where TCs are just another minority, the only thing they will get is more of the same, they dont really care about GC refugees whom they continue to tell they will all go home...stop to consider for one moment GCs have 90% of what they want why compromise this for stupid GC refugees who are easily duped.

[Pyrpolizer]

I wouldn't call a building plot 90% of what I still have in the occupied and still want back (even if I was given one-which I never was)

[denizaksulu]

I called a few friends in Larnaca, they told me there have been indeed sales of TC land by the TCs themselves. Like I said before TCs who left Cyprus before 1974 can sell their properties without any problem....

In fact there are some developers who "specialize" in locating those expats and buying their lands. There is one very well known such developer in Larnaca, but I am afraid I can't give his name publicly, anyone interested please send me a PM.

These developers you mention sure have long far tentacles.