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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:47 pm

He's just being an idiot. I've not been a member of this web site long but I've come to the conclusion that some members are not willing to discuss any post seriously.
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:56 pm

So what's Greece doing wrong at the moment?? Saying Greece and Turkey have an share to blame in the Cyprus problem is stupid. Its not Greece that is currently occupying Cyprus or has committed ethnic cleansing...its Turkey.
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:04 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
oranos64 wrote:POOR FELLOW .....Tell us more about this guy ...


Well...apparently he calls himself "a Turkish -speaking Cypriot".
He believes that Britain and Greece are as responsible for the present situation as Turkey.

Britain for using the nationalism tool to divide us;Greece for sending Greek soldiers to Cyprus and organising the coup against Makarios;and Turkey for the obvious reasons...He believes Cypriots should take all 3 so-called "guarantors" to international courts for their role in subverting the will of the Cypriot nation...Interesting fellow. 8)


interesting guy .... and good idea too
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:19 pm

Lets not forget what happened in 1974. Who put Samson in charge of Cyprus. Not Turkey but Greece under US pressure. I know it was the military Junta but it was still Greece. All I want is Cyprus to be re-united turkish cypriots & greek cypriots. If it means the GC's have to distance them selves from Greece and TC's distance them selves from Turkey for this happen then so be it.
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:30 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:Lets not forget what happened in 1974. Who put Samson in charge of Cyprus. Not Turkey but Greece under US pressure. I know it was the military Junta but it was still Greece. All I want is Cyprus to be re-united turkish cypriots & greek cypriots. If it means the GC's have to distance them selves from Greece and TC's distance them selves from Turkey for this happen then so be it.


george where do you live ? ....
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:42 pm

I live in the UK but my family is from Varosha Occupied illegaly by Turkey. Please dont think im anti greece because I'm not. My wife is from Greece. I'm fully aware of what Greece have done for Cyprus since 1974. But we have been stuck in this situation far to long now. If it means we must distance our selves from both mother countries to secure peace then so be it. All I want is to be able to return to my family's home and see where my farther grew. Up to now that has been impossible because of the status quo.
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:48 pm

Im fully aware what the Greek junta government had done back then..but they were disolved over 30 years ago but Turkey still occupies Cyprus holds it to ransom.

The reason i said 'Greek junta government' and not 'Greece' is because that government had no support from the Greek people and were toppled by them. Turkey has a nation full of sheep who are positive about anything the Turkish military does and supports its actions in Cyprus.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:59 pm

What you are saying regarding Greece is correct. I'm not willing to comment regarding Turkey as I dont live their so I dont want to make any assumptions. All I know is Turk & Greeks can live together in the right climate. It's been proved in the UK. As stated in my earlier post some of my best freinds are TC's. I also live 2 doors away from a Turkish family from mainland Turkey and they are very nice people. You get good and bad in every race. We need to look beyong the past and look to the future and have a leap of faith when trying to resolve the Cyprus Issue.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:57 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:Im fully aware what the Greek junta government had done back then..but they were disolved over 30 years ago but Turkey still occupies Cyprus holds it to ransom.

The reason i said 'Greek junta government' and not 'Greece' is because that government had no support from the Greek people and were toppled by them. Turkey has a nation full of sheep who are positive about anything the Turkish military does and supports its actions in Cyprus.


The whole thing was orchestrated by the USA back in 1974,Snake.The idea was to divide Cyprus between Turkey and Greece,and remove that independent minded and dangerously Russian-leaning president, Makarios.
Things went wrong when they failed to kill Makarios and he escaped and rung the alarm bells. The Junta fell and Turkey ended up becoming the occupier...I don't think we can absolve Greece that easily for her role in the present status qou in Cyprus. And this by no means is meant to justify Turkey's role either.Just to put things in perspective... :(
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:10 pm

The Junta fell and Turkey invaded a SECOND time, which they had no reason too...and decided to ethnically cleanse the north of Greeks, Maronites, Latins...Christians basically.

The whole thing about Turkey being there to protect the Turkish Cypriots from the Greek Cypriots is a load of bullshit and im inclined to think most level-headed Turkish Cypriots know this too. Its just another excuse to aggressively expand Turkey's military might in the Aegean.

So I ask you again...what has Greece been doing wrong with regards to the Cyprus problem in the last 30 years or so? You should really blame America for the Greek junta and not Greece anyway.
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