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[BirKibrisli]

Ahmet Yonluer,the Muftu (Chief religious officer) of Trnc has just resigned from his position in order to pursue a political career...

For the uninitiated,this is the person who is the most trusted man in the NOrth of a certain Tayyip Erdogan,also known as the Prime Minister of Turkey...He was the man named as being instumental in the demise of the previous CTP-DP coalition government.He has supposedly organised the defection of MPs from DP and UBP,and the founding of the ORP party,which is the junior partner in the present CTP-ORP coalition...

And what was this aspiring politician's first political utterance???
He claimed that the Turkish settlers in the North were being discriminating against!!! And he promised to make it his business to help improve the lot of these poor individuals...So you have heard it here first...The people who have been brought to the island to outnumber the TCs and take away their political power;the people who have turned the roads in the North into killing fields;the people who run the casinos,the gambling joints and the brothels;and the people who were given freely GC refugee lands and became rich selling them to the foreigners now have the status of being disadvantaged. And they have a defender in Mr Ahmet Yonluer,Erdogan's hatchet man in the trnc...Sit back and watch the rise and rise of this man of the moment...

[GreekForumer]

Bir,
In Turkey Imams are employees of the state, right?
Is it the same setup in the North ?

[oranos64]

as i have SAID BEFORE ...the self destruct button has been pressed ....when a culture allows divisions between its people ...civillians distrust the state and eventually we have civilian violence ...

watch him and watch the TRNC ...AND THE MILITARY ...ALONG WITH THE MAINLAND ...LOOSE ALL E.U talks ...blame it on SOUTHERN CYPRUS etc

countdown has began ... according to my friends in TRNC AND LONDON ..THINGS ARE GETTING REALLY BAD ...

also my prediction peoples ...TURKEY FLEXES ITS MUSCLES ON ITS NEIGHBOURS IN 2008 ....

WATCH THIS SPACE

[BirKibrisli]

Bir,
In Turkey Imams are employees of the state, right?
Is it the same setup in the North ?

Yes,mate...
In Turkey the secular state governs and pays the salaries of all Imams...
Imams are the poorest paid public servants in Turkey.They are now demanding to be paid overtime,because they start work around 4am and do not finish till midnight...I can't see the government giving in.I think there are around 70,000 imams in Turkey,and this has the potential of equaling the money spend on the military!!!The state would be bankrupt in no time... Just a thought...what would happen if the decide to go on strike???

It is the same set up in the North,but I have no idea how their salaries compare.They are nowhere as influential as in Turkey.But that might be about to change...

[BirKibrisli]

as i have SAID BEFORE ...the self destruct button has been pressed ....when a culture allows divisions between its people ...civillians distrust the state and eventually we have civilian violence ...

watch him and watch the TRNC ...AND THE MILITARY ...ALONG WITH THE MAINLAND ...LOOSE ALL E.U talks ...blame it on SOUTHERN CYPRUS etc

countdown has began ... according to my friends in TRNC AND LONDON ..THINGS ARE GETTING REALLY BAD ...

also my prediction peoples ...TURKEY FLEXES ITS MUSCLES ON ITS NEIGHBOURS IN 2008 ....

WATCH THIS SPACE

Do you have a cyristal ball or something,oranos???
Apart from the possibility of going into Northern Iraq,which other neighbours are in the line of fire you think???

[cypezokyli]

that would have happened sooner or later.
the chances of it having success are much less so long the cyppro exist. the "danger" we pose forces some kind of unity in the north. in a resolved situation these problems will arise. they are class problems. they are economic problems. partly they are also cultural. and yes, the settlers in many ways face discremination.

there are enough socioeconomic reasons for the creation of such a party.

[Nikitas]

Bir,

You think that there would be any politically acceptable cover for attacking the Republic of Cyprus free areas in a military operation? I think not, there is no valid excuse and the act itself would invoke the doctrine of European solidarity, if not in military at least in political terms.

More frigthening is the prospect of civil strife in the north. Some might gloat with the prospect but this would be a humanitarian disaster for the Turkish Cypriots, they would have no escape. They would either be forced to leave the north and come south, which most do not want to do (let us be realistic on this) or leave the island altogether. The erasing of Turkish Cypriots from the island is a disaster for all communities regardless what some super nationalists here say.

A situation like that amost automatically leads to double union. I think (hope?) you overrating mr Ahmet Yonluer's influence and patronage.

[EPSILON]

[quote="Nikitas"]Bir,

You think that there would be any politically acceptable cover for attacking the Republic of Cyprus free areas in a military operation? I think not, there is no valid excuse and the act itself would invoke the doctrine of European solidarity, if not in military at least in political terms.

Politicaly aceptable cover??????Is Turkey ever need such a thing?

[iceman]

Ahmet Yonluer,the Muftu (Chief religious officer) of Trnc has just resigned from his position in order to pursue a political career...

For the uninitiated,this is the person who is the most trusted man in the NOrth of a certain Tayyip Erdogan,also known as the Prime Minister of Turkey...He was the man named as being instumental in the demise of the previous CTP-DP coalition government.He has supposedly organised the defection of MPs from DP and UBP,and the founding of the ORP party,which is the junior partner in the present CTP-ORP coalition...

And what was this aspiring politician's first political utterance???
He claimed that the Turkish settlers in the North were being discriminating against!!! And he promised to make it his business to help improve the lot of these poor individuals...So you have heard it here first...The people who have been brought to the island to outnumber the TCs and take away their political power;the people who have turned the roads in the North into killing fields;the people who run the casinos,the gambling joints and the brothels;and the people who were given freely GC refugee lands and became rich selling them to the foreigners now have the status of being disadvantaged. And they have a defender in Mr Ahmet Yonluer,Erdogan's hatchet man in the trnc...Sit back and watch the rise and rise of this man of the moment...

I wouldnt panic about Mr.Yonluer if i was you..As we say in Turkish...when it comes to politics "Ates olsa oldugu yeri yakamaz"

[BirKibrisli]

that would have happened sooner or later.
the chances of it having success are much less so long the cyppro exist. the "danger" we pose forces some kind of unity in the north. in a resolved situation these problems will arise. they are class problems. they are economic problems. partly they are also cultural. and yes, the settlers in many ways face discremination.

there are enough socioeconomic reasons for the creation of such a party.

I too feel sorry for those who are living under difficult conditions ,Cypez.
But their presence on the island is the second biggest obstacle (after the soldiers) to a solution. In fact politically they are the biggest obstacle.They should never have been given the right to vote.Ther are now 3 maincommunities in Cyprus.And the TCs are the third largest now...That is a biiiiggggg problem...