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[denizaksulu]

Bir,
In Turkey Imams are employees of the state, right?
Is it the same setup in the North ?

Yes,mate...
In Turkey the secular state governs and pays the salaries of all Imams...
Imams are the poorest paid public servants in Turkey.They are now demanding to be paid overtime,because they start work around 4am and do not finish till midnight...I can't see the government giving in.I think there are around 70,000 imams in Turkey,and this has the potential of equaling the money spend on the military!!!The state would be bankrupt in no time... Just a thought...what would happen if the decide to go on strike???

It is the same set up in the North,but I have no idea how their salaries compare.They are nowhere as influential as in Turkey.But that might be about to change...

Another Nasreddin Hodja story comes to mind BK. Related to pay: The Hodja was loking extremely miserable and a paaser by asked "what si the mater, why do you look so glum?". Hodja replied, " business is so scarce, no body has died for a long time".

Hodja's/Imams used to live on handouts and their sole incomes were from bereived families. It was funny when I first heard it. Somehow it has lost its sparkle. Must be the way I tell 'em.

My apology for the numerous spelling mistakes. I havent had my Coffee yet. Must be a record for one posting.

[observer]

karma

Coz Bir is a wise man , not a pretender and he is not afraid of telling the truths..
TRNC may turn IRNC soon
IRNC=Islamic Republic of Northern Cyprus

Lunchtime in Kyrenia on the second day of Ramazan. Restaurants unaffected, workers taking their lunch as usual. It's going to be a long while before TRNC turns to IRNC - if ever.

[denizaksulu]

Ahmet Yonluer,the Muftu (Chief religious officer) of Trnc has just resigned from his position in order to pursue a political career...

For the uninitiated,this is the person who is the most trusted man in the NOrth of a certain Tayyip Erdogan,also known as the Prime Minister of Turkey...He was the man named as being instumental in the demise of the previous CTP-DP coalition government.He has supposedly organised the defection of MPs from DP and UBP,and the founding of the ORP party,which is the junior partner in the present CTP-ORP coalition...

And what was this aspiring politician's first political utterance???
He claimed that the Turkish settlers in the North were being discriminating against!!! And he promised to make it his business to help improve the lot of these poor individuals...So you have heard it here first...The people who have been brought to the island to outnumber the TCs and take away their political power;the people who have turned the roads in the North into killing fields;the people who run the casinos,the gambling joints and the brothels;and the people who were given freely GC refugee lands and became rich selling them to the foreigners now have the status of being disadvantaged. And they have a defender in Mr Ahmet Yonluer,Erdogan's hatchet man in the trnc...Sit back and watch the rise and rise of this man of the moment...

I wouldnt panic about Mr.Yonluer if i was you..As we say in Turkish...when it comes to politics "Ates olsa oldugu yeri yakamaz"

Hİ İceman,
to Birkibrisli ''DAVULUN SESİ UZAKTAN NASİL GELİR''

Hey you guys, come on whats with all this turkish talk ? Tell us what you are saying. Or else i will set LENA on to you for not following forum rules

I will translate for you Pantheman. Its a saying/ metaphore, that loses a lot in translation, but the nearest I can get is: "How a drum souds from afar". Nothing offensive I hope?
Regards

[Kikapu]

[Kikapu]

[quote="iceman
Hİ İceman,
to Birkibrisli ''DAVULUN SESİ UZAKTAN NASİL GELİR''

Hey you guys, come on whats with all this turkish talk ? Tell us what you are saying. Or else i will set LENA on to you for not following forum rules

I will translate for you Pantheman. Its a saying/ metaphore, that loses a lot in translation, but the nearest I can get is: "How a drum souds from afar". Nothing offensive I hope?
Regards

It may also mean, that all those who live far away from Cyprus does not know anything, and that those who live here, know everything, whether it is "true or not", so all those who do not live in Cyprus should "shut the f**k up".

There are few more versions I can think of, but this should give you some idea Pantheman.

[denizaksulu]

[quote="iceman
Hİ İceman,
to Birkibrisli ''DAVULUN SESİ UZAKTAN NASİL GELİR''

Hey you guys, come on whats with all this turkish talk ? Tell us what you are saying. Or else i will set LENA on to you for not following forum rules

I will translate for you Pantheman. Its a saying/ metaphore, that loses a lot in translation, but the nearest I can get is: "How a drum souds from afar". Nothing offensive I hope?
Regards

It may also mean, that all those who live far away from Cyprus does not know anything, and that those who live here, know everything, whether it is "true or not", so all those who do not live in Cyprus should "shut the f**k up".

There are few more versions I can think of, but this should give you some idea Pantheman.

Those of us who do have to live abroad also have a voice to be heard. I hope Halil has not used the expression in that sense. Maybe he should elaborate. I delibarately left out the interpretations for that reason. Lets see.

[Kikapu]

[quote="iceman
Hİ İceman,
to Birkibrisli ''DAVULUN SESİ UZAKTAN NASİL GELİR''

Hey you guys, come on whats with all this turkish talk ? Tell us what you are saying. Or else i will set LENA on to you for not following forum rules

I will translate for you Pantheman. Its a saying/ metaphore, that loses a lot in translation, but the nearest I can get is: "How a drum souds from afar". Nothing offensive I hope?
Regards

It may also mean, that all those who live far away from Cyprus does not know anything, and that those who live here, know everything, whether it is "true or not", so all those who do not live in Cyprus should "shut the f**k up".

There are few more versions I can think of, but this should give you some idea Pantheman.

Those of us who do have to live abroad also have a voice to be heard. I hope Halil has not used the expression in that sense. Maybe he should elaborate. I delibarately left out the interpretations for that reason. Lets see.

Have you already forgotten Deniz, that Halil told us last week to "shut up and keep quite, and don't say anything bad about the "TRNC" .

[denizaksulu]

[quote="iceman
Hİ İceman,
to Birkibrisli ''DAVULUN SESİ UZAKTAN NASİL GELİR''

Hey you guys, come on whats with all this turkish talk ? Tell us what you are saying. Or else i will set LENA on to you for not following forum rules

I will translate for you Pantheman. Its a saying/ metaphore, that loses a lot in translation, but the nearest I can get is: "How a drum souds from afar". Nothing offensive I hope?
Regards

It may also mean, that all those who live far away from Cyprus does not know anything, and that those who live here, know everything, whether it is "true or not", so all those who do not live in Cyprus should "shut the f**k up".

There are few more versions I can think of, but this should give you some idea Pantheman.

Those of us who do have to live abroad also have a voice to be heard. I hope Halil has not used the expression in that sense. Maybe he should elaborate. I delibarately left out the interpretations for that reason. Lets see.

Have you already forgotten Deniz, that Halil told us last week to "shut up and keep quite, and don't say anything bad about the "TRNC" .

Not forgotten, maybe missed. I will have to check it out. Tut tut tut. After all that defending. I dont know.

[halil]

Ahmet Yonluer,the Muftu (Chief religious officer) of Trnc has just resigned from his position in order to pursue a political career...

For the uninitiated,this is the person who is the most trusted man in the NOrth of a certain Tayyip Erdogan,also known as the Prime Minister of Turkey...He was the man named as being instumental in the demise of the previous CTP-DP coalition government.He has supposedly organised the defection of MPs from DP and UBP,and the founding of the ORP party,which is the junior partner in the present CTP-ORP coalition...

And what was this aspiring politician's first political utterance???
He claimed that the Turkish settlers in the North were being discriminating against!!! And he promised to make it his business to help improve the lot of these poor individuals...So you have heard it here first...The people who have been brought to the island to outnumber the TCs and take away their political power;the people who have turned the roads in the North into killing fields;the people who run the casinos,the gambling joints and the brothels;and the people who were given freely GC refugee lands and became rich selling them to the foreigners now have the status of being disadvantaged. And they have a defender in Mr Ahmet Yonluer,Erdogan's hatchet man in the trnc...Sit back and watch the rise and rise of this man of the moment...

I wouldnt panic about Mr.Yonluer if i was you..As we say in Turkish...when it comes to politics "Ates olsa oldugu yeri yakamaz"

Hİ İceman,

to Birkibrisli ''DAVULUN SESİ UZAKTAN NASİL GELİR''

Kikapu,
read it again , u understood what i am trying to say. don't play with words.

By the way Mr Yönlüer he is not anymore MÜFTÜ.

i said to my friends to keep quite because to do discussion with them will end up good for nothing . u have been more than me on this forum . İt looks we can not reach agreement we are far away. This my conclusion that i get from this forum.

[BirKibrisli]

Bir told us,

Today, September 14, Yonluer announced the founding of his politial party with adverts in the Turkish Cypriot press.

Thanks for remembering,Nikitas...

When Talat and Soyer serve their purpose,they will be tossed away like Denktash was...Mr Yonluer's party will come to power on the back of the majority settler voters...Welcome to the Islamic Republic of North Cyprus,as my karma says...