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ICG Group report.

Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:44 pm

Top Brussels think-tank slams Tassos
By Jean Christou

THE Brussels-based think tank the International Crisis Group (ICG), which caused a stir last year over its pro-Turkish stance on Cyprus, has slammed President Tassos Papadopoulos as an obstacle to a solution.

“An opportunity for change in Greek Cyprus may emerge if presidential elections in February 2008 produce a more pro-reunification president than the current hardliner, Tassos Papadopoulos,” the new report on Turkey-EU relations said.

“Some Greek Cypriot officials say they believe the same. For now, however, there are few signs of impatience in Greek Cypriot society for reunification with neighbours who are three times poorer and one fifth their number, yet demand political equality.”

The ICG is co chaired by the former European Commissioner for External Relations Christopher Patten and former US Ambassador Thomas Pickering.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, former US National Security Advisor to the President, Wesley Clark, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, Pat Cox former President of the European Parliament and Joschka Fischer the former German Foreign Minister are members of the ICG executive committee.

The report suggests that the Greek Cypriot idea that “osmosis” can produce a unitary state is unlikely to work. “Turkish Cypriots are applying for Nicosia’s passports to take advantage of EU privileges, not to embrace the Greek Cypriot state,” it said.

It also cites Cyprus as the biggest and most obvious obstacle to any EU attempt to relaunch its Turkey relationship.

“There seems little chance in the short term that Greek Cyprus will genuinely discuss bicommunal, bizonal arrangements. As governments forget the initial shock of how the Greek Cypriot government broke its promise to accept the UN plan, the chance of real EU pressure on Nicosia to compromise is lessening,” the ICG said. “Cyprus remains a daily EU problem, with a potential for real conflict.”

The report recommends to the EU to keep Turkey engaged and asks EU governments to form a group of friends of north Cyprus “to reassure Turks there of their connection to Europe and consider new steps to intensify contacts in the framework of the EU-backed UN settlement process”

It suggests to Cyprus to set out realistic political goals “that acknowledge a compromise with the Turkish Cypriots will require sacrifice by the Greek Cypriots as well.

“Recognise that reunification of the island is only possible through the UN bicommunal, bizonal process and explain this to the Greek Cypriot population.

Welcome EU initiatives to bring Turkish Cypriots closer to the EU, so as to help close the gap between the people on the island and increase the room for political manoeuvre of pro-reform, pro-solution politicians in Turkish Cyprus and Turkey.”

The ICG also makes a suggestion to the US to continue to “reward the Turkish community and administration on Cyprus economically and politically for pro-reunification actions, so as to help allay a feeling in Turkey that the West is irrevocably prejudiced against it.”

The new ICG report was dismissed yesterday by ruling DIKO, which denounced the provocative intervention of “foreign factors” in the internal affairs of Cyprus aimed at removing Papadopoulos. The ICG, a statement said, continued to take up Turkey’s positions on the Cyprus issue.Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

Notice how the GC politicians are no different to most GC forum members. Anything that does not suit them is simply ignored and dismissed. Never will they admit to these reports being of a constructive nature and work for a solution :evil:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:00 pm

What those that are behind the ICG care about are for EU accession of Turkey. Think tanks my ass. It is their own financial interests the only thing they think about.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2980848&C=europe
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Re: ICG Group report.

Postby GreekForumer » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:35 pm

The President and CEO of ICG is an ex-Australian politician by the name of Gareth Evans. He was Australia's foreign minister from 1988-1996.

Anyway, in 1975, with US permission, Indonesia invaded East Timor and annexed the territory. The Americans feared a communist takeover of East Timor. (Deja Vu!)

The conflict in East Timor had resulted in at least 100,000 deaths.

In 1989, Gareth Evans signed the Timor Gap Treaty (OIL and GAS!!) with Indonesia :shock: , in effect recognising Indonesia's claim to East Timor. This act outraged many Australians, myself included. East Timor is now an independent republic and the treaty had to be rewritten.

John Pilger wrote:Within two months of the Dili massacre, which Evans described as an “aberration”, the Australian government oversaw the awarding of contracts under the Timor Gap treaty. Signed in 1989 by Evans and his Indonesian counterpart, Ali Alatas, flying over the mass graves of East Timor and toasting each other in champagne, the treaty allows Australians and other foreign companies to exploit the gas and oil reserves off East Timor which, says Evans, could bring in “zillions” of dollars.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/1994/142/9795


I would piss on any report that has Gareth's contributions in it.
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Postby T_C » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:37 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Some Greeks are too funny!
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Re: ICG Group report.

Postby EPSILON » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:42 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:Top Brussels think-tank slams Tassos
By Jean Christou

THE Brussels-based think tank the International Crisis Group (ICG), which caused a stir last year over its pro-Turkish stance on Cyprus, has slammed President Tassos Papadopoulos as an obstacle to a solution.

“An opportunity for change in Greek Cyprus may emerge if presidential elections in February 2008 produce a more pro-reunification president than the current hardliner, Tassos Papadopoulos,” the new report on Turkey-EU relations said.

“Some Greek Cypriot officials say they believe the same. For now, however, there are few signs of impatience in Greek Cypriot society for reunification with neighbours who are three times poorer and one fifth their number, yet demand political equality.”

The ICG is co chaired by the former European Commissioner for External Relations Christopher Patten and former US Ambassador Thomas Pickering.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, former US National Security Advisor to the President, Wesley Clark, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, Pat Cox former President of the European Parliament and Joschka Fischer the former German Foreign Minister are members of the ICG executive committee.

The report suggests that the Greek Cypriot idea that “osmosis” can produce a unitary state is unlikely to work. “Turkish Cypriots are applying for Nicosia’s passports to take advantage of EU privileges, not to embrace the Greek Cypriot state,” it said.

It also cites Cyprus as the biggest and most obvious obstacle to any EU attempt to relaunch its Turkey relationship.

“There seems little chance in the short term that Greek Cyprus will genuinely discuss bicommunal, bizonal arrangements. As governments forget the initial shock of how the Greek Cypriot government broke its promise to accept the UN plan, the chance of real EU pressure on Nicosia to compromise is lessening,” the ICG said. “Cyprus remains a daily EU problem, with a potential for real conflict.”

The report recommends to the EU to keep Turkey engaged and asks EU governments to form a group of friends of north Cyprus “to reassure Turks there of their connection to Europe and consider new steps to intensify contacts in the framework of the EU-backed UN settlement process”

It suggests to Cyprus to set out realistic political goals “that acknowledge a compromise with the Turkish Cypriots will require sacrifice by the Greek Cypriots as well.

“Recognise that reunification of the island is only possible through the UN bicommunal, bizonal process and explain this to the Greek Cypriot population.

Welcome EU initiatives to bring Turkish Cypriots closer to the EU, so as to help close the gap between the people on the island and increase the room for political manoeuvre of pro-reform, pro-solution politicians in Turkish Cyprus and Turkey.”

The ICG also makes a suggestion to the US to continue to “reward the Turkish community and administration on Cyprus economically and politically for pro-reunification actions, so as to help allay a feeling in Turkey that the West is irrevocably prejudiced against it.”

The new ICG report was dismissed yesterday by ruling DIKO, which denounced the provocative intervention of “foreign factors” in the internal affairs of Cyprus aimed at removing Papadopoulos. The ICG, a statement said, continued to take up Turkey’s positions on the Cyprus issue.Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

Notice how the GC politicians are no different to most GC forum members. Anything that does not suit them is simply ignored and dismissed. Never will they admit to these reports being of a constructive nature and work for a solution :evil:


Do not worry, the new team is coming, Dora Mpagogianni in Greece, Kassoulides i Cyprus, Eartogan in Ankara- a new plan will be ready by the end of next year.

The previous team, Papantreou, Clerides, Ertogan did not suceed the new team will use other methods to convist GCs that 1 TC = 4 GCS
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Postby oranos64 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:44 pm

International Crisis Group (ICG), more like Turkish promotion group ..they recive monies fom T.CS and T mainlanders ... they have been caught dining with the aforementioned ...

well said GreekForumer ...just another ...political puppet on americas strings ...
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Postby halil » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:10 pm

oranos64 wrote:International Crisis Group (ICG), more like Turkish promotion group ..they recive monies fom T.CS and T mainlanders ... they have been caught dining with the aforementioned ...

well said GreekForumer ...just another ...political puppet on americas strings ...


is this the way , all these years GC's adminstration was doing and all the reports were against TC's. İt's mean we have learned a lot of things from GC's. Well done kids.keep going on. .....


Hi Mitch, nice to hear u. your friend Militiades coming in september.Pls ask to all Cypriots in london for donation to cancer association.u can get in touch with militiades to get more information...... give a little smile for a cancer passiones. :) :) :) :) :)
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Postby humanist » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:20 pm

The report suggests that the Greek Cypriot idea that “osmosis” can produce a unitary state is unlikely to work. “Turkish Cypriots are applying for Nicosia’s passports to take advantage of EU privileges, not to embrace the Greek Cypriot state,” it said.



Yes ........ like we don't know this.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:55 pm

Jean,

Please look at the text again and notice how the words Turk and Turkish Cypriot are used interchangeably.

Exactly how has Cyprus blocked any process in the EU involving Turkey? It has never vetoed or even delayed any part of the process.

Where is there mention is this piece of garbage about the European legal order pervading any future settlement- you know the basics of European law: right of movement, establishment, property etc.

If the Turkish Cypriot administration is to be rwarded for acting Europeanlike where is the evidence it has done so?

The document gives the impression that Bizonal and Bicommunal ideas are not promoted by Greek Cypriot politicians. I have been keeping up with the situation for 35 years and they talk of nothing else. Which personally I find baffling because Cyprus is not bi but multi communal. But these guys obviously do not give a crap for any of the other communities on the island, just like mr Annan di not.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:26 pm

This ICG must be a pro-Papadopoulos re-election propaganda group, for with all the above nonsense and garbage it contained in its report on Turkey, it basically secured Papadopoulos re-election!

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