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[DT.]

VP, the difference between you and I is that I see you as an equal.

In the meantime you are denying me my freedom and my choices not only as a collective but also as an individual who supports an illegal regime that promotes separation hate and discrimination.

I also see a Frenchman or a Italian as my equal but this does not mean I want to be ruled by them...shoudl I not have this freedom to choose in my own country?

You can have what you want as well as long as we do not hinder each other..if you are able to settle anywhere in Cyprus and do whatever you wish then how will you be hindered? That regime you refer to is one that has protect me and nurtured my for over 33 years, its a far better than the plans you guys had in store for my community.

the nurturing bossom of denktash..

[Viewpoint]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?

The TCs would have a lot more say, not just from the Pakistanis, but from any other minority in the world.

But still what you want is not just to "have a say" and what proportionately and legally belongs to you. What you want is to gain on our loss by force.

We declared the TRNC to form our own country away from you greedy buggers who didn't want to share but wanted to give our island to Greece which represented annihilation for TCs.

Did the Pakistanis have an agreement of partnership with the English? or did they ever rule the UK? when did they arrive in the UK? do they have our history?

We are not just like any other minority we are co owners that's where you go wrong, you still have problems comprehending that you are not the sole owners and rulers of this island.

Yes we know, your ownership in Cyprus created on selters basis, you are just selters like the new you are bringing in the Island now.

Would that be the same of the Pontians and Russians you have imported or is it the same old story of one rule for TCs and another for yourselves.?

[Viewpoint]

so your now giving it to Turkey and selling it off to russian's nice one, i guess that makes sense. so you are accusing me of being greedy and therefore looking directly in the mirror seeing your self doing excactly the same. that is certainly what I call progressive forward thinking, may be i should thank God we don't live in the RoC together.

Russians?? mirror?? What are you on about?

[EPSILON]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?


TCs allowed to have all their extra rights in Cyprus and even much more.
They are the most valued race in human history. One TC vote = 4 GC votes , they must pay 0 taxes and get 51 per cent of the government aid/social revenues.They can co-operate with an invasion army for more than 33 years and they still have the right to be citizens of ROC with all benefits out of it.

NOW A BIG QUESTION: Lets say than one of you, the GCs who is working in SC and pay all his taxes etc.Appoint a lwayer against the ROC requesting the simple democratic thing!! EQUALITY BETWEEN CYTITZENS OF CYPRUS AGAINST THE STATE. On basis TCS not pay taxes, cooperating with the invasion army and still have all the rights of a Cyprus citizen why you the Gc to pay taxes etc in order for you to keep your rights?.All GCS to stop to fulfill their citizenship obligations unless same be fulfilled also by Tcs. Otherwise Tcs and until Cyprus problem be solved, they do not have such a right, to be a citizen of ROC.!!!!

Go for it.. this is your right but wont you look real stupid when you claim to respresent all Cypriots or the whole island

The party/state where you apply for this citenship is still the ROC.In order to have a citizenship, worldwide you must fulfill some obligations - Why you to have all the rights of the citizenship without obligations and Gcs to not unless they fufill all their obligations?Their leadership , as an effort to prove to Gcs that they are Elephants, taking taxes from them in order to cover social allowances to Tcs who pay nothing and in addition cooperating with the foreign invation army.

Iam blaiming GCs leadership here not the Tcs.

[BirKibrisli]

Just to play the devil's advocate,how can we be sure that "Kill Turks"
was written by GCs????

I remember a time,while I was still living in Cyprus,when the TMT was running around at night painting ENOSIS in Greek and in Blue paint on mosques and other TC buildings...

Having said that,I think it is terribly discouraging that the RoC government
does not see fit to remove racist signs such as this. Such signs make the TCs very uncomfortable while in the South,and less inclined to want a unitary state...I would've thought that was not in the interests of the RoC government which claim to represent all Cypriots...

Where is our friend TIM what's his name by the way???
I find his absence from this debate rather suspicious.

[EPSILON]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?

The TCs would have a lot more say, not just from the Pakistanis, but from any other minority in the world.

But still what you want is not just to "have a say" and what proportionately and legally belongs to you. What you want is to gain on our loss by force.

We declared the TRNC to form our own country away from you greedy buggers who didn't want to share but wanted to give our island to Greece which represented annihilation for TCs.

Did the Pakistanis have an agreement of partnership with the English? or did they ever rule the UK? when did they arrive in the UK? do they have our history?

We are not just like any other minority we are co owners that's where you go wrong, you still have problems comprehending that you are not the sole owners and rulers of this island.

Yes we know, your ownership in Cyprus created on selters basis, you are just selters like the new you are bringing in the Island now.

Would that be the same of the Pontians and Russians you have imported or is it the same old story of one rule for TCs and another for yourselves.?

Finally what means Turkish Cypriot? is something we can eat? From where they appeared in Cyprus/ May be Allah sent them in the Island one beautiful morning.

What will be the difference between the Turkish Cypriots and the new setlers coming now, after 100 years? They will be also just Cypriots, like some Greeks of the Island like to say

[Viewpoint]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?


TCs allowed to have all their extra rights in Cyprus and even much more.
They are the most valued race in human history. One TC vote = 4 GC votes , they must pay 0 taxes and get 51 per cent of the government aid/social revenues.They can co-operate with an invasion army for more than 33 years and they still have the right to be citizens of ROC with all benefits out of it.

NOW A BIG QUESTION: Lets say than one of you, the GCs who is working in SC and pay all his taxes etc.Appoint a lwayer against the ROC requesting the simple democratic thing!! EQUALITY BETWEEN CYTITZENS OF CYPRUS AGAINST THE STATE. On basis TCS not pay taxes, cooperating with the invasion army and still have all the rights of a Cyprus citizen why you the Gc to pay taxes etc in order for you to keep your rights?.All GCS to stop to fulfill their citizenship obligations unless same be fulfilled also by Tcs. Otherwise Tcs and until Cyprus problem be solved, they do not have such a right, to be a citizen of ROC.!!!!

Go for it.. this is your right but wont you look real stupid when you claim to respresent all Cypriots or the whole island

The party/state where you apply for this citenship is still the ROC.In order to have a citizenship, worldwide you must fulfill some obligations - Why you to have all the rights of the citizenship without obligations and Gcs to not unless they fufill all their obligations?Their leadership , as an effort to prove to Gcs that they are Elephants, taking taxes from them in order to cover social allowances to Tcs who pay nothing and in addition cooperating with the foreign invation army.

Iam blaiming GCs leadership here not the Tcs.

And I am agreeing with you. They do not have the balls to tell the world they only represent GCs not TCs as that blow away the myths that GCs have woven for years that they are the legitmate owners of the "RoC".

[T_C]

Finally what means Turkish Cypriot? is something we can eat? From where they appeared in Cyprus/ May be Allah sent them in the Island one beautiful morning.

EXACTLY the same place you came from...ANATOLIA!!!

[EPSILON]

Finally what means Turkish Cypriot? is something we can eat? From where they appeared in Cyprus/ May be Allah sent them in the Island one beautiful morning.

EXACTLY the same place you came from...ANATOLIA!!!

The skin is not comply- Mongolia created different kind of people than us, by luck, almoast like you!!!!

[EPSILON]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?


TCs allowed to have all their extra rights in Cyprus and even much more.
They are the most valued race in human history. One TC vote = 4 GC votes , they must pay 0 taxes and get 51 per cent of the government aid/social revenues.They can co-operate with an invasion army for more than 33 years and they still have the right to be citizens of ROC with all benefits out of it.

NOW A BIG QUESTION: Lets say than one of you, the GCs who is working in SC and pay all his taxes etc.Appoint a lwayer against the ROC requesting the simple democratic thing!! EQUALITY BETWEEN CYTITZENS OF CYPRUS AGAINST THE STATE. On basis TCS not pay taxes, cooperating with the invasion army and still have all the rights of a Cyprus citizen why you the Gc to pay taxes etc in order for you to keep your rights?.All GCS to stop to fulfill their citizenship obligations unless same be fulfilled also by Tcs. Otherwise Tcs and until Cyprus problem be solved, they do not have such a right, to be a citizen of ROC.!!!!

Go for it.. this is your right but wont you look real stupid when you claim to respresent all Cypriots or the whole island

The party/state where you apply for this citenship is still the ROC.In order to have a citizenship, worldwide you must fulfill some obligations - Why you to have all the rights of the citizenship without obligations and Gcs to not unless they fufill all their obligations?Their leadership , as an effort to prove to Gcs that they are Elephants, taking taxes from them in order to cover social allowances to Tcs who pay nothing and in addition cooperating with the foreign invation army.

Iam blaiming GCs leadership here not the Tcs.

And I am agreeing with you. They do not have the balls to tell the world they only represent GCs not TCs as that blow away the myths that GCs have woven for years that they are the legitmate owners of the "RoC".

They only thing ROC will prove if demand obligations for a citinship is to prove to the World that is a stable state , part of which is under occupation and not a "semi power" with parners in North.