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[Piratis]

Nobody asked from TCs to give up their freedom. They can have as much freedom as every other citizen in Cyprus. Are you saying that all the other minorities in all the other countries of the world are not free?

If you don't like it that you are a minority then move back to Turkey. We are not the ones who brought you here, you came in order to enslave and exploit us. However that era of Turkish rule is over now, and you have no right to rule Cyprus (or part of it) just by yourselves, against the rights of the Cypriots that make up the great majority of every part of Cyprus.

[Expatkiwi]

And you have no right to claim Cyprus for the Hellenic Republic, Piratus. After all, it was your side that scuttled the 1960 Constitution, not the Turks...

[Piratis]

You are the only one talking about "Hellenic Republic". I am talking about Republic of Cyprus, the one and only legal state in Cyprus.

[denizaksulu]

Nobody asked from TCs to give up their freedom. They can have as much freedom as every other citizen in Cyprus. Are you saying that all the other minorities in all the other countries of the world are not free?

If you don't like it that you are a minority then move back to Turkey. We are not the ones who brought you here, you came in order to enslave and exploit us. However that era of Turkish rule is over now, and you have no right to rule Cyprus (or part of it) just by yourselves, against the rights of the Cypriots that make up the great majority of every part of Cyprus.

If your answer is directed at me Piratis, my friend, my reply is, WHY should I go back to Turkey. My homeland is Cyprus!. What is it you do not want to understand. Cyprus is where I come from, where my father comes from and before that where his father comes from ad infinitum. Period. Maybe not ad infinitum but far back enough.

[Piratis]

In Cyprus, there are Cypriots, most of them speak Greek, some of the speak Turkish, and yet others speak other languages.

If for you it is a restrain to your freedom that your linguistic/religious group is a minority in Cyprus, then you have the right to move to a country where Turkish speakers and Muslims are the majority - Turkey. What you don't have the right is to violate the human rights of all other Cypriots simply because you don't like it that your group is a minority among Cypriots.

[Expatkiwi]

Piratus,

If that is true, then why - in the pictures I see in flag publications - is the Cypriot Flag subordinated in numbers to the Greek National Flag in (south) Nicosia? Judging from those images, people in the south think of themselves as Greek first and Cypriot second... Oh, and I suppose that charge can also be leveled against the TRNC, but it just underscores the lack of a Cypriot identity.

[Piratis]

So a New Yorker can not be both New Yorker and American at the same time?

There is a Cypriot identity, and it exists for 1000s of years.

[denizaksulu]

So a New Yorker can not be both New Yorker and American at the same time?

There is a Cypriot identity, and it exists for 1000s of years.

Piratis, my friend. I am curious. Most of our Armenian friends in Cyprus are 'not Cypriots', since mostly they arrived at the beginning of the 1900's and later. Is this also your contention, as you insist on making Cyprus exclusvely GC?

[Expatkiwi]

New Yorkers perceive themselves as being American first. Cypriots - judging from what I have been reading - don't see themselves as Cypriot first. THAT is the critical difference.

[Viewpoint]

VP, Hitler used the same excuse to invade Czechoslovakia.

At that time (a bit before WWII) Germany was a superpower and everybody else closed their eyes to this crime committed by Hitler.

But after the balance of power changed. Now go ask what happened to the German minority that once existed there and that Hitler used them as an excuse for invasion.

Republic of Cyprus is an independent sovereign state, part of which is illegally occupied by Turkey, the modern day Nazis. You can use as many lame excuses as you want, just like Hitler did, but that does not legalize your crime, and soon justice will be served either you like it or not.

Cyprus, including its north part, is an island that has a great majority of GCs. This is a fact you need to deal with, and when you do you will be able to live in Cyprus as equal citizens with your human + minority rights like in every either democratic country. If on the other hand you try to create a Turkish country on our land, then sooner or later you will get what Hitler got for your crimes.

Your empty and sick threats mean shit, we do not react kindly to provocation, danger or risk you must know that by now look what happened in 1974. You can wait for your swing in power theory all you want we have no problem with that but what you have to face everyday is the reality that we are divided and will stay that way until a compromise is found we can all commit to otherwise you are peeing in the wind.