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[Viewpoint]

VP wrote-
If the dog bites your leg and you place a mussel on it..do you feel when you take it off it will not bite again or wait for a moment when you are weak to take revenge? Would you take precautions and safeguards to ensure you are not biten ever again?

I don't think mussels are a very good cure for dog bites and as far as I know mussels don't have teeth so they could not bite you.

Apologies i meant muzzle.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint, in our case you are the "dog" as in comparison with what we have suffered (and still do) under the Turks, what you suffered from us is a drop in the ocean.

So what we want is from the dog to stop biting us.

So stop pretending to be the victim when in fact you have been and you continue to be the aggressor in Cyprus.

We do not demand from you to abandon your homeland or any of yours rights so we can feel safe. So why do you demand such things from us and you want to continue the war against us?

Actually I know why, because you want to keep the land you stole from us and forcefully gain on our loss. Just know that you can not cover your true reasons with lame excuses. Nobody is buying them.

Total rubbish, you can have all the land for all I care that is not my priority like it is yours. Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Since when has a Pakistani or for that matter any other race been at a disadvantage in the UK? This Country bends over backwards for any minority sometimes at the expense of its own Countrymen.

Go ask a Pakistani and you will find out the real truth not what you are peddled by the media.

[Viewpoint]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?


TCs allowed to have all their extra rights in Cyprus and even much more.
They are the most valued race in human history. One TC vote = 4 GC votes , they must pay 0 taxes and get 51 per cent of the government aid/social revenues.They can co-operate with an invasion army for more than 33 years and they still have the right to be citizens of ROC with all benefits out of it.

NOW A BIG QUESTION: Lets say than one of you, the GCs who is working in SC and pay all his taxes etc.Appoint a lwayer against the ROC requesting the simple democratic thing!! EQUALITY BETWEEN CYTITZENS OF CYPRUS AGAINST THE STATE. On basis TCS not pay taxes, cooperating with the invasion army and still have all the rights of a Cyprus citizen why you the Gc to pay taxes etc in order for you to keep your rights?.All GCS to stop to fulfill their citizenship obligations unless same be fulfilled also by Tcs. Otherwise Tcs and until Cyprus problem be solved, they do not have such a right, to be a citizen of ROC.!!!!

Go for it.. this is your right but wont you look real stupid when you claim to respresent all Cypriots or the whole island

[Viewpoint]

VP it has never been about the land but the freedom and choice that it represents, and you are an intelligent man am sure that you know that.

I would not deny anyone the right to live where ever they wish after a solution but you should also allow me the right to rule myself as I do not want to be ruled by you.

[Jerry]

VP wrote-
If the dog bites your leg and you place a mussel on it..do you feel when you take it off it will not bite again or wait for a moment when you are weak to take revenge? Would you take precautions and safeguards to ensure you are not biten ever again?

I don't think mussels are a very good cure for dog bites and as far as I know mussels don't have teeth so they could not bite you.

Apologies i meant muzzle.

It gave me a laugh VP, I hope you don't think I was taking the piss.

[humanist]

VP, the difference between you and I is that I see you as an equal.

In the meantime you are denying me my freedom and my choices not only as a collective but also as an individual who supports an illegal regime that promotes separation hate and discrimination.

[Viewpoint]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?

The TCs would have a lot more say, not just from the Pakistanis, but from any other minority in the world.

But still what you want is not just to "have a say" and what proportionately and legally belongs to you. What you want is to gain on our loss by force.

We declared the TRNC to form our own country away from you greedy buggers who didn't want to share but wanted to give our island to Greece which represented annihilation for TCs.

Did the Pakistanis have an agreement of partnership with the English? or did they ever rule the UK? when did they arrive in the UK? do they have our history?

We are not just like any other minority we are co owners that's where you go wrong, you still have problems comprehending that you are not the sole owners and rulers of this island.

[Viewpoint]

VP, the difference between you and I is that I see you as an equal.

In the meantime you are denying me my freedom and my choices not only as a collective but also as an individual who supports an illegal regime that promotes separation hate and discrimination.

I also see a Frenchman or a Italian as my equal but this does not mean I want to be ruled by them...shoudl I not have this freedom to choose in my own country?

You can have what you want as well as long as we do not hinder each other..if you are able to settle anywhere in Cyprus and do whatever you wish then how will you be hindered? That regime you refer to is one that has protected us and nurtured us both financially and morally for over 33 years, its far better than the plans you guys had in store for my community.

[humanist]

so your now giving it to Turkey and selling it off to russian's nice one, i guess that makes sense. so you are accusing me of being greedy and therefore looking directly in the mirror seeing your self doing excactly the same. that is certainly what I call progressive forward thinking, may be i should thank God we don't live in the RoC together.

[EPSILON]

you can have all the land for all I care

Really? Why did you declared the "trnc" then and you claim that our land is now yours?

Whats important for me is being able to have say in my own future without feeling like the Pakistanis in the UK always at a disadvantage, leaving all the decisions purely to the GCs, safeguards are vital to ensure we are not pushed to one side and until a time you can understand and accept this reality we will continue to hold onto land like you hold onto recognition.

Do the Pakistanis in the UK have guaranteed proportional representation in the government? Do they have their language as an official language of UK?

The TCs would have a lot more say, not just from the Pakistanis, but from any other minority in the world.

But still what you want is not just to "have a say" and what proportionately and legally belongs to you. What you want is to gain on our loss by force.

We declared the TRNC to form our own country away from you greedy buggers who didn't want to share but wanted to give our island to Greece which represented annihilation for TCs.

Did the Pakistanis have an agreement of partnership with the English? or did they ever rule the UK? when did they arrive in the UK? do they have our history?

We are not just like any other minority we are co owners that's where you go wrong, you still have problems comprehending that you are not the sole owners and rulers of this island.

Yes we know, your ownership in Cyprus created on selters basis, you are just selters like the new you are bringing in the Island now.