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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:22 am

humanist wrote:Deniz as much I can appreciate the debate that this thread has created and with Tim's all good intentions behind the title, I think it is time to lock it. I really do fnd the title disturbing. Even though a fact it still giving it it time and place and I think we need to move beyond it.



Hi Good morning Hu. It has been tried. Since they wanted to keep it I had to go along with responses. They should lock it. Definitely. I like to think that I only respond to statements. Ok lock it and throw away the key.

Lets hope the Admin will be more careful when deciding on titles for new topics
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:24 am

THanks Deniz,

It has helped, the mountain is in the north of Greece and from the meaning I guess that it must be a good area for grazing so there must be good milk producing herds there. It may also be called that because the peak is always covered in snow, so it look like kaimaki, the top of the milk.

Personally i use the name to let off steam at the office in Athens. It sounds like Cypriot and if you say it loud it sounds like swearing, but without offering offence to anyone. Unlike Cypriot dialect mainland Greek does not have ch, sh, tt, or kk, sounds. So it never feels satisfying when you want to express some frustration.

Funny thing is that I have been saying it for years and no one here knew what it meant!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:32 am

Nikitas wrote:THanks Deniz,

It has helped, the mountain is in the north of Greece and from the meaning I guess that it must be a good area for grazing so there must be good milk producing herds there. It may also be called that because the peak is always covered in snow, so it look like kaimaki, the top of the milk.

Personally i use the name to let off steam at the office in Athens. It sounds like Cypriot and if you say it loud it sounds like swearing, but without offering offence to anyone. Unlike Cypriot dialect mainland Greek does not have ch, sh, tt, or kk, sounds. So it never feels satisfying when you want to express some frustration.

Funny thing is that I have been saying it for years and no one here knew what it meant!




The funny thing here is that the word 'Kaymak, kakaimak' is rather complementary (as a metaphor). It could mean very white skin as opposed to 'sun burnt' peasant skin' or top echelon of society.

So if you were letting off steam you were unintentionally being rather nice. That is nice. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:35 am

Shows how good we Cypriots are, we are nice even when we want to swear! Now I will use it a lot more and with much more confidence!
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:40 am

People,

If by some magic, miracle, coincidence etc, the Cyprus problem was suddenlys solved, totally and comprehensively solved, what job would our politician do? I mean the politicians we have today and look so self important discussing and perpetuating the problem. There would be no frequent meetings with the UN Sec General, no more flights to New York, Geneva, etc. More than likely a new breed of technocratic politician would take over and carry out the mundane, boring, not very rewarding administration of a small nation of 1 million people.

Maybe that is the reason that some personalities seek elective office in Cyprus and keep the problem going? Should we consult a psychiatrist about the situation or a political analyst?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:40 am

Nikitas wrote:Shows how good we Cypriots are, we are nice even when we want to swear! Now I will use it a lot more and with much more confidence!


OK but be careful. To the wrong person i might mean a 'poofter'. Among friends its OK though.
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:51 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:THanks Deniz,

It has helped, the mountain is in the north of Greece and from the meaning I guess that it must be a good area for grazing so there must be good milk producing herds there. It may also be called that because the peak is always covered in snow, so it look like kaimaki, the top of the milk.

Personally i use the name to let off steam at the office in Athens. It sounds like Cypriot and if you say it loud it sounds like swearing, but without offering offence to anyone. Unlike Cypriot dialect mainland Greek does not have ch, sh, tt, or kk, sounds. So it never feels satisfying when you want to express some frustration.

Funny thing is that I have been saying it for years and no one here knew what it meant!




The funny thing here is that the word 'Kaymak, kakaimak' is rather complementary (as a metaphor). It could mean very white skin as opposed to 'sun burnt' peasant skin' or top echelon of society.

So if you were letting off steam you were unintentionally being rather nice. That is nice. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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How about this: There is also an expression in English tthat goes "The cat that got the cream". Is the mountain the tallest or maybe the most beautiful in other words is it " La crem de la crem"??????? (Sorry about the spelling).
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:09 am

Zan,

It is not the tallest in Greece, it is the most striking feature in its group of mountains. So that could be another explanation for the name. It is the one mountain up there that has a snowed peak even in late spring and sometimes through the summer.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:09 am

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:THanks Deniz,

It has helped, the mountain is in the north of Greece and from the meaning I guess that it must be a good area for grazing so there must be good milk producing herds there. It may also be called that because the peak is always covered in snow, so it look like kaimaki, the top of the milk.

Personally i use the name to let off steam at the office in Athens. It sounds like Cypriot and if you say it loud it sounds like swearing, but without offering offence to anyone. Unlike Cypriot dialect mainland Greek does not have ch, sh, tt, or kk, sounds. So it never feels satisfying when you want to express some frustration.

Funny thing is that I have been saying it for years and no one here knew what it meant!




The funny thing here is that the word 'Kaymak, kakaimak' is rather complementary (as a metaphor). It could mean very white skin as opposed to 'sun burnt' peasant skin' or top echelon of society.

So if you were letting off steam you were unintentionally being rather nice. That is nice. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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How about this: There is also an expression in English tthat goes "The cat that got the cream". Is the mountain the tallest or maybe the most beautiful in other words is it " La crem de la crem"??????? (Sorry about the spelling).


These metaphores are only limited by the extent of your imagination.

More importantly is the fact that there is at least one mountain range in Greece still retainingits its Turkish nomenclature. I can not understand name changes. Even in Turkey they will use Turkicised versions of old Greek names if not the Greek names itself.

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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:17 am

Deniz,

There are many areas with Turkish names, Kara Dere, Kotza Orman, Giaour Anda, etc. Sometimes it is hard to tell which are Turkish and which are slav in northern Greece. Perhaps this is the most striking difference between the mainland and Cyprus, the slav influence you see, especially from the middle of the country and northwards. Not to mention the continental landscape as opposed to the island terrain we are used to. After seeing mountains here I never say anything about Troodos being big! I know better.
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