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Postby growuptcs » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:56 pm

zan:
Typical metality that sets us apart as you say...Your arogance in being right and my being right and you not being able to challenge it...


Its not from not being able to challenge it, its the idea that I'm going up against someone who wants a goal post 100x the size of mine before challenging me, instead of using the same size goal post before the game starts.
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Postby zan » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:01 pm

growuptcs wrote:zan:
Typical metality that sets us apart as you say...Your arogance in being right and my being right and you not being able to challenge it...


Its not from not being able to challenge it, its the idea that I'm going up against someone who wants a goal post 100x the size of mine before challenging me, instead of using the same size goal post before the game starts.


You are talking in riddles that only make sense to you..Any chance of picking a point or are you just going to say things without any backup.... My points are there in history and then in quotes I have taken from news papers and the infamous Akritas Plan. Just shouting "You are telling lies" at me like our brain box Snake does nothing for your argument so the challenge stands...Make your point and prove what I say is a lie like you stated or apologize...OR....shut the fuck up as I said...The choice is yours.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:06 pm

CopperLine wrote:By the way I'd echo the post of the person who said that the TRNC does not feel like a place under occupation. I go to and fro across the Green Line frequently and, bar the occasional hassle you get from border police/customs right around the world, this does not feel like heavy military occupation of the kind I've witnessed in say Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, or even Northern Ireland, divided Germany and the Basque region in times past.


This may be because the victims of the occupation, the Native Cypriots, are just too darn nice, peaceloving and diplomatically waiting it out.

As for the Turkish speaking collaborators of the invasion, why they are so brainwashed they are like sheep grazing off the fat-of-the-land, whilst their 40,000 shepherds watch over them.

At least, the Native Cypriots are still free-thinking people. 8)

All is quiet in the pseudo-trnc; like a scene from "1984". :shock:

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Postby CopperLine » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:14 pm

Kifeas,

I don't really know how to respond to your last post. It is a mystery to me what it is you read into my postings that are not there.

I compared the feeling of occupation to others I've known (Lebanon, Israel etc) and all I said was that this occupation did not feel like the others I'd listed. At no point did I say or imply "
Does this therefore mean that there is no occupation in the north ..." - that is an absurd conclusion to derive from my posting. Yours is a complete non sequitur

Further I didn't say anything about seeing Turkish troops and tanks at Ledra ! I said that I saw graffiti at Ledra and made a comment about that.

And, to continue on this point about the 'feel' of occupation : it is a matter of policy and historical precedent that one of the chief objectives of occupying armies has been to make sure that the occupied population are reminded 24hours a day, 7 days a week, that they are being occupied, that the army's presence is obvious, permanent and unavoidable. Curiously, the army presence in TRNC - at least what I have seen over a long period - is pretty low-key, it is not obvious, it is avoidable. Not so in Lebanon, Israel, etc ...


Kifeas, if you take words and sentences that were written for one purpose and at one location on the page and then mix them up with words and sentences written for different purposes and at a different locations on a page you can, I'm sure, come up with any meaning and interpretation under the sun. But the reason that most of people try to stick to the rules of language and grammar, sentence composition and paragraph structure is to avoid or reduce the possibilities of misinterpretation.

I'm quite happy to stand by what I've written (or to be corrected for things that I've written but got wrong). But I am not responsible for things that I haven't written and which you have contrived out of some febrile imagination.
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:24 pm

zan, is this where you get your beer muscles from feeling all tuff, The Cyprus-Forum. Watch your mouth, you thief peice-of-sh_t with no job just living off stolen refugee land. You sit there all day looking to challenge the unchallengable to civilized people. You freak.
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Postby zan » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:30 pm

growuptcs wrote:zan, is this where you get your beer muscles from feeling all tuff, The Cyprus-Forum. Watch your mouth, you thief peice-of-sh_t with no job just living off stolen refugee land. You sit there all day looking to challenge the unchallengable to civilized people. You freak.


Bingo....You have top prize for being an idiot without any argument what so ever...Thank you. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:31 pm

zan act your age already or find a better suited hobby than to make everyone just want to knock the daylights out of you.
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:33 pm

zan act your age already or find a better suited hobby than to make everyone just want to knock the daylights out of you.


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Postby zan » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:39 pm

growuptcs wrote:zan act your age already or find a better suited hobby than to make everyone just want to knock the daylights out of you.


It is hard when you hear things that you do not want to hear or things that go against the propaganda that your government has taught you but someone has got to do the dirty work. I just hope you are a better person afterwards. No need to thank me.

At least you provide entertainment for the Snake as well. I would have thought he would be setting up his sounds in some club by now but he seems to be free this weekend..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Jerry » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:47 pm

CopperLine wrote:Kifeas,

I don't really know how to respond to your last post. It is a mystery to me what it is you read into my postings that are not there.

I compared the feeling of occupation to others I've known (Lebanon, Israel etc) and all I said was that this occupation did not feel like the others I'd listed. At no point did I say or imply "
Does this therefore mean that there is no occupation in the north ..." - that is an absurd conclusion to derive from my posting. Yours is a complete non sequitur

Further I didn't say anything about seeing Turkish troops and tanks at Ledra ! I said that I saw graffiti at Ledra and made a comment about that.

And, to continue on this point about the 'feel' of occupation : it is a matter of policy and historical precedent that one of the chief objectives of occupying armies has been to make sure that the occupied population are reminded 24hours a day, 7 days a week, that they are being occupied, that the army's presence is obvious, permanent and unavoidable. Curiously, the army presence in TRNC - at least what I have seen over a long period - is pretty low-key, it is not obvious, it is avoidable. Not so in Lebanon, Israel, etc ...


Kifeas, if you take words and sentences that were written for one purpose and at one location on the page and then mix them up with words and sentences written for different purposes and at a different locations on a page you can, I'm sure, come up with any meaning and interpretation under the sun. But the reason that most of people try to stick to the rules of language and grammar, sentence composition and paragraph structure is to avoid or reduce the possibilities of misinterpretation.

I'm quite happy to stand by what I've written (or to be corrected for things that I've written but got wrong). But I am not responsible for things that I haven't written and which you have contrived out of some febrile imagination.


CopperLine, I think you will find that most of the military in the north are usually confined to the restriced areas. I remember an English friend of mine went on holiday a few years after the invasion, he said he would not go again because there were soldiers all over the place. I think they soon learned that too much military presence was bad for tourism so they restricted the military to certain areas. A few years ago I saw dozens of young lads in Nicosia, I asked the taxi driver if a big football match was on but he said they were Turkish soldiers having a day off but he added that they were only allowed into town if they were out of uniform. Perhaps someone in the north can confirm this
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