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[oranos64]

Bananiot
Are you saying that Turkey and its military are not the puppets of the U.S ? ....Are you sure ?
12.4 billion of weapons from the U.S in 10 years plus £190 million per year in aid ...to buy you as an allie in the region .... is not evidence ?

ok ....as for the GRAFFITI ...who cares ...in larnca ..there is
in turkish ..i might add ... TURKS ARE YOUR MASTERS .
TURKEY IS CYPRUS ... 1 TURK = 30 Greeks in the old neighbour hood behind the orphanides . all something like a year old ...
prehaps the 40000 troops ,previously mentioned can come and clean that up ... and unblock some toilets too...as i hear they do some really technical training now ..to past the time ...

[Bananiot]

That is also condemned oranos, stupidity knows no boundaries. The first part of your argument goes to prove my point.

[oranos64]

Glad you agree ,Bananiot ...

.now get them 40000 over to do some tidying up ....waste of MANPOWER AND RESOURCES ...40000 troops ...man ...send them to IRAQ /TURKEY BORDERS ...AT least they would be dealing with live enemy attacks daily ....

it costs TURKEY £98- £130 MILLION EVERY 4 MONTHS TO SUSTAIN THE ARMY .... WHILST SOUTHERN TURKEY IS FACING A DROUGHT ...CROPS ARE FAILING ...AND ANKARA HAS WATER EVERY 2 DAYS

E.U MEMBERSHIP ....NO CHANCE

[humanist]

Tim there are racist fascist in ever nation of the world. I am sure in the UK you would have seen grafiti targeting specific groups simply based on their presumed ethnic background. This is nothing more than a racist ultra nationalist action that not many Cypriots support.

Is there a need for Turkish army to exist in Cyprus? No In three years there have been milions of crossings from the north to the south. People are not affraid to cross to work to gain health care. The US has already recorded the crossings and is arguing that based on the numbers of people crossing over each day there are no concerns and there is certainly no fear assosciated.

Perhaps the action was taken in retaliation to the occupation od Cyprus. Have you considered this.

TURKISH TROOPS OUT OF CYPRUS.

[oranos64]

Humanist .... yes ...but the opening of crossings data does not contain compliants nor record concerns

the Grey wolves held two rallies in KEYRENIA in the last month ..

The drug trafficiking has shot up 160% since the green line opening ... so bad that the RUSSIANS are sending FSB officers in OCTOBER ..

The Turkish cypriot military ..argue ..that since Cyprus allows ELVIC ..helenic troops here (400 i might add ) it can justify its troops here ....

think logically ,then think in military terms ...can you really see the Turkish cypriot army ever step back and step down ...
The G.C ARMY has destroyed all of its Green LINE mines .....TC still has to begin theirs ...

its the best example of HATE and arrogance ... i can think of ....

[Greekster91]

How come the Turkish troops didn't get rid of the mines?

[erolz]

Such kinds of racist grafitti exist everywhere it is true and whilst it is somewhat and slightly disapointing that many GC posting here chose to deny or excuse or justify it that is no where near as disapointing as when they chose to deny, excuse or justify the actions of a GC government in Cyprus, in the form of Yiorjadis as interior minister, that was not painting 'kill turks' on walls but was organising and running illegal ethnic based armed militas to ACTUALY 'kill turks' - where of course 'turk' meant Turkish Cypriots.

[humanist]

Oh Oranos please do not get me wrong, I am not suggesting that Turkish Cypriots have not shown racism and discrimination against Greek speaking Cypriots. The hate by a couple of Turkish Cypriots on this forum is very evident and frightening. As far as Grey Wolves they are as bad as Golden Dawn. However, very few of the Turkish Cypriot participants on this forum ever talk against the racism and hate expressed towards Greek speraking Cypriots. However neither is right. Spray painting kill turks is as bad as Cyprus is turkish.

[zan]

Tim there are racist fascist in ever nation of the world. I am sure in the UK you would have seen grafiti targeting specific groups simply based on their presumed ethnic background. This is nothing more than a racist ultra nationalist action that not many Cypriots support.

Is there a need for Turkish army to exist in Cyprus? No In three years there have been milions of crossings from the north to the south. People are not affraid to cross to work to gain health care. The US has already recorded the crossings and is arguing that based on the numbers of people crossing over each day there are no concerns and there is certainly no fear assosciated.

Perhaps the action was taken in retaliation to the occupation od Cyprus. Have you considered this.

TURKISH TROOPS OUT OF CYPRUS.

So we are to assume by that comparison that if the crime wave goes down because of police presence we can then dismantle the police system. Could it be possible that there was no incidents because the army was and is there?????

As to your post above I have reason to believe that you mean me. The problem is that you have bought into the system that Bananiot described earlier on. Just because I argue against some parts of the "RoC" system then I hate GCs and Greeks. I really really thought that you were better than that but alas........

[paaul12]

Report Warns EU Not To Alienate Turkey

Growing mistrust between Ankara and the European Union regarding Turkey’s prospects for joining the 27-nation political bloc risk pushing the country to pursue its own security and defense agendas independent of Europe, and will retard reformist efforts to scale back the Turkish military’s grip on the levers of government, argues the International Crisis Group (ICG).

In a new 53-page report, “Turkey and Europe: The Way Ahead,” released Aug. 17, the ICG warns of the strategic risk for Europe of alienating Ankara by dragging out or permanently diluting the country’s chances of becoming an EU member. The union accorded candidacy status to Turkey in 1999 and opened membership negotiations in late 2004 on the first of 35 legal and economic chapters, or legislative changes, that Turkey must adopt to be fully eligible to join.

But the talks have progressed at an achingly slow pace in view of growing public resistance in Europe to the idea of further EU expansion. For instance, the union froze the opening of eight negotiating chapters in December due to a political impasse with Ankara over Cyprus, whose northern Turkish ethnic community is diplomatically shunned by the world but protected by mainland Turkish military forces. More telling, the two biggest EU member states — France and Germany — now have ruling parties hostile to Turkish membership.

“Europeans who attack the prospect of Turkish membership of the EU underestimate the damage they do to European interests,” asserts the ICG report, adding that without the promise of membership, there can be no external democratic pressure on Turkey’s military authorities to stop meddling in the country’s political affairs. “The military has sought to reverse the course of the EU-bound political process” as a result of the growing alienation between Europe and Turkey.

The mistrust has also prompted Turkey to reduce its contribution to Europe’s common security policy, according to the report.
“Ankara is showing signs of independent military policies over which Europe has diminishing leverage. The great bond between Turkey and Europe since the Second World War was always a military alliance, but this threatens to go into reverse,” says the report, warning that Ankara is determined to take a more assertive role vis-à-vis northern Iraq, which Turkey’s rebel Kurds use as an operating base.
Northern Iraq’s own Kurdish community is effectively a separate state under the U.S. military’s protection.

If Turkey’s estrangement with the West goes too far, the ICG report argues, Ankara “may even seek to develop its own nuclear weapons to defend itself against what it sees as potentially threatening weaponization in Iran and elsewhere in the Middle East. The U.S. may keep it in check, but Europe risks giving up all leverage.”

The loss would also be commercial, since Ankara is now snubbing Europe’s Typhoon Eurofighter program in favor of a U.S. solution for its next generation of fighters, the report observes.

Source: http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2980848&C=europe