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Postby Sotos » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:58 pm

phoenix wrote:Copperline,

whilst I strongly condemn racism, I must add that further to your above post, the term "Kill Turks" is NOT racist. . . It is merely an interjection.

Now to say "Kill Inferior Turks". . . THAT would be racist.

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Even better we could say "peace operation to send Turks to Heaven" now it even sounds positive and compassionate ;)
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Postby phoenix » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:04 pm

Sotos wrote:
phoenix wrote:Copperline,

whilst I strongly condemn racism, I must add that further to your above post, the term "Kill Turks" is NOT racist. . . It is merely an interjection.

Now to say "Kill Inferior Turks". . . THAT would be racist.

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Even better we could say "peace operation to send Turks to Heaven" now it even sounds positive and compassionate ;)


Like it... :lol:

OR:

"Ticket to Tarturus for Turks"

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Postby Sotos » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:18 pm

phoenix wrote:
Sotos wrote:
phoenix wrote:Copperline,

whilst I strongly condemn racism, I must add that further to your above post, the term "Kill Turks" is NOT racist. . . It is merely an interjection.

Now to say "Kill Inferior Turks". . . THAT would be racist.

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Even better we could say "peace operation to send Turks to Heaven" now it even sounds positive and compassionate ;)


Like it... :lol:

OR:

"Ticket to Tarturus for Turks"

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No. It is should be "FREE Ticket to Tarturus for Turks". Sounds more positive like that :P That the ticket is one-way will be mentioned with small letters on the back ;)
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Postby CopperLine » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:22 pm

Phoenix,

whilst I strongly condemn racism, I must add that further to your above post, the term "Kill Turks" is NOT racist. . . It is merely an interjection.

Now to say "Kill Inferior Turks". . . THAT would be racist.


I take your point (though I guess that you meant to write "injunction" not interjection), but that is a bit of a sophist argument. Killing is not good for the health and wellbeing of the target. The target here is clearly stated as being 'Turks', not anyone else. Turk here is used as a racial category. To say 'Kill Turks' is, definitely on that score, racist.

If the poster had said "Kill everyone" then there'd be no racial element to this ! If the poster had said 'Kill inferior Turks' then that would presumably leave superior Turks safe and therefore the target would not be Turks per se, as a racial category, but "inferiors' who happened to be Turks. What about 'inferiors' who were not Turks, would they be safe ?

Ah. Semantics, semantics.
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Postby Sotos » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:30 pm

Killing is not good for the health and wellbeing of the target.

Come on Coop! It is called euthanasia. Turks will go to Heaven and have 278 virgins each or whatever your koran says. "Special offer: Die now and get an extra virgin for free" :lol:
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Postby humanist » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:43 pm

GR you really d crack me up.

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Postby phoenix » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:43 pm

CopperLine wrote:Phoenix,

whilst I strongly condemn racism, I must add that further to your above post, the term "Kill Turks" is NOT racist. . . It is merely an interjection.

Now to say "Kill Inferior Turks". . . THAT would be racist.


I take your point (though I guess that you meant to write "injunction" not interjection), but that is a bit of a sophist argument. Killing is not good for the health and wellbeing of the target. The target here is clearly stated as being 'Turks', not anyone else. Turk here is used as a racial category. To say 'Kill Turks' is, definitely on that score, racist.

If the poster had said "Kill everyone" then there'd be no racial element to this ! If the poster had said 'Kill inferior Turks' then that would presumably leave superior Turks safe and therefore the target would not be Turks per se, as a racial category, but "inferiors' who happened to be Turks. What about 'inferiors' who were not Turks, would they be safe ?

Ah. Semantics, semantics.


No Copperplate. . . I did not mean "injunction" (as in command). . . . . . .

I firmly meant what I said, an "interjection" (a remark) :evil:

Merely STATING a race does not racism make!

To refine the point, and to exclude a preclusion of possible but unlikely superior Turks. . .

"KILL INFERIOR-TURKS"

Better? Suits all the requirements, ie an INTERJECTION that is NOT RACIST or ELITIST!

Stop changing everything to suit yourselves Inferior-Turks :lol:

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Postby humanist » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:49 pm

phoenix I think you are delluding yourself to suggest that a coment such as the one in discussion now, painted on a wall does not make it racist. It is also a delusion to assume that there is a country on our planet that does not have racists living within it. This includes Cyprus. We have seen racists on this forum shouting slurs on both sides of the divide. Personally I find it concerning nd would have found it concerning if it said kill greeks/ jews/ or english.

the right thing to do is for the municipality to get rid of it immediately and for the municiplaity to look for those responsible and punish them.

the rest is crap.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:49 pm

Graffiti is always an eye sore , but when some stupid bastard incites hatred against a race of people or even worst against his own country men then it becomes absurdly obscene.
We must do all we can to discourage and condemn such irresponsible exhibition.
The T/Cs are the only ones that can liberate the occuppied part of Cyprus , messages of hatred directed at them are highly unlikely to promote such motives. Grow up Cyprus !
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Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:56 pm

Bravo Miltiades and bravo humanist. I would expect the municipality to whitewash this garbage off immediately. This is what would happen in the north.
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