No Piratis I am 100% consistent and always have been since my very first post on any CYprus realted forum. I have only ever said and have said repeatedly that I am not Turkish but Cypriot or with more detail Cypriot with a mainly Turkish cultural background. I have never considered myself a Turk that happens to live in Cyprus and never expressed such.
Sure, sure. You are Cypriot and your Turkish background is a detail. But then when it suits you that "detail" makes you a totally separate "people" with separate self determination rights. Then when it comes to the crimes of the Turks against us that "detail" totally disappears and you become just Cypriot in order to avoid any blame.
So you have to decide and finally be consistent on how much of a "detail" that "detail" is.
You on the other repeatedly insist that you are Greek and Cyprus is Greek and you only ever change 'chameleon like' into a Cypriot when you seek to to destroy Cyprus as a nation, state and people, in the name of the Cypriot people, but actually pursuing Greek agendas.
Just like a real Athenian is Greek, and a real Spartan is Greek, and a real Cypriot is Greek. We are the true Cypriots, the exact same ones that you found on this island when your first barbarian hordes arrived butchering 10000s and pillaging without mercy our beloved island.
When you chose to be Greek and not Cypriot , all I can say to you is I am NOT of the same people as you. It is realy that simple and it YOU that defines me as a seperate people to you by insisting that you are Greek (and in the process, trying to impose tha same Greekness on me against my will and destroy my nation and state and people - Cyprus).
Erolz, maybe you can "choose" what to be (and thats your right) but in our case we are what we have always been, we didn't choose anything. You knew full well that the people of Cyprus are Greek when you first came in 1571, and you knew full well this is
OUR island and yet you came and imposed your rule over us by force. If you don't like what real Cypriots are, then go from where you came from.
If you want to talk about the crimes and responsibilites of each COMMUNITY in Cyprus then fine. But you do not want to talk of this responsiblity and for good reason on your part. You want the TC community to be responsible for what the Ottomans did to you hundreds of years ago. That is not talking of the responsibilites of the TC community at all. THe TC community is no more responsible for those things as a community than you are responsible as a community for the 100,000s of people if not millions killed by ancient Greeks, or the many many cultures wiped out by 'superior' Greek culture (inculding pre Greek Cypriot culture).
If you are going into the past in order to appropriate blame then of course I want the whole past to be included, and not just the bits that suit you.
Cypriots (who are Greek) existed on this island for 3500 years. Since you don't want to associate yourself with the Ottomans, then maybe you should first tell us when exactly the "TC community" dropped from the sky in Cyprus?
As far as your baseless claims about the pre Greek Cypriot culture I gave you a very clear answer already:
First Greeks in Cyprus:
After 1400 B.C., Mycenaean and Mycenaean-Achaean traders from the northeastern Peloponnesus began regular commercial visits to the island. Settlers from the same areas arrived in large numbers toward the end of the Trojan War (traditionally dated about 1184 B.C.). Even in modern times, a strip of the northern coast was known as the Achaean Coast in commemoration of those early settlers. The newcomers spread the use of their spoken language and introduced a script that greatly facilitated commerce. They also introduced the potter's wheel and began producing pottery that eventually was carried by traders to many mainland markets. By the end of the second millennium B.C., a distinctive culture had developed on Cyprus. The island's culture was tempered and enriched by its position as a crossroads for the commerce of three continents, but in essence it was distinctively Hellenic.
First Turks in Cyprus:
Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.
In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cytoc.htmlThe concept of a "country" did not exist when Greeks first came to Cyprus, and Cyprus was very sparsely inhabited (at most 5000 people in total). Greeks founded new cities in uninhabited land and due to the fact the Greek civilization was superior, slowly slowly the rest of Cypriots adopted the Greek civilization and culture, and the result were Greek Cypriots.
On the other hand, the invading Turks came in Cyprus butchering people by the 1000s, for the sole reason of enslaving and exploiting the people of Cyprus. The Ottoman era was an era of misery and depression for Cyprus, and every time we tried to revolt and demand our freedom or some rights, we have been brutally butchered by the Turks.
cute "little" fellas and this is what they look like...
