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Postby zan » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:45 pm

Nikitas wrote:Re the hospital thing

All citizens of Cyprus are entitled to use its facilities including hospitals. The European Union decrees that all citizens are treated equally. That puts that angle to rest.

More interesting is the recent article by Sener Levent about the new super hospital put up by mainland Turkish business in the north which is blackmailing smaller private clinics to send their patients there. It sounds like one more form of economic pressure put on Turkish Cypriots to add to the others- casinos, land speculation, tourist "development" by mainlanders to drive the indigenous Turkish Cypriots out, or to marginalise them economically. But sinking to the level of monopolising helath care, now that is just too much. Let the people come to the south for treatment, fuck the monopoly! Enough is enough!



Isn't this a direct contradiction of your other "enough is enough" speech when you didn't want people to cross over. :roll:
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Postby oranos64 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:54 pm

ZAN ..I thought you was one of the intellectuals on this forum ..clearly you are a monkey

millions were given to TC S IN THE 80S AND 90S... instead of spending it the infrastructure it was spent on arms more and more arms ....
as for comments regarding us holding you to siege ...please

it was you who invaded with a huge military present ...a couple of small batalions could have done the job ... pure over kill ... you dug your own graves ....
wont be long before the truth - over the turkish cypriot propaganda is told ...

it aint over yet boy ..not by a long shot ...you and the rest of the TURK CYPS ..over estimate your nations military might ... no machine functions without fuel .and resources . and without NATO APPROVAL ...

lets also not forget that your mainland brothers are allready beginning to loose a grip .....fractions in the culture are appearing ...pro islamic ,pro secular etc ... every empire comes to a end ...only those who dont have too many eniemies survive ...
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Postby zan » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:00 pm

oranos64 wrote:ZAN ..I thought you was one of the intellectuals on this forum ..clearly you are a monkey

millions were given to TC S IN THE 80S AND 90S... instead of spending it the infrastructure it was spent on arms more and more arms ....
as for comments regarding us holding you to siege ...please

it was you who invaded with a huge military present ...a couple of small batalions could have done the job ... pure over kill ... you dug your own graves ....
wont be long before the truth - over the turkish cypriot propaganda is told ...

it aint over yet boy ..not by a long shot ...you and the rest of the TURK CYPS ..over estimate your nations military might ... no machine functions with fuel ... and without NATO APPROVAL ...


You keep living your lie sweetheart. You have had the world enthralled by your lies ever since Makarios started to weave his web. The world is hearing the truth only now and I simply do not understand why the TCs have left it so long. Enjoy your last moments of lies my friend...You are just a fish out of water flapping around taking your last breath before you die (Metaphorically speaking).
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Postby oranos64 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:05 pm

NIKATAS ...I DONT AGREE ON THE HOSPITOL NOTION ... the huge strain on the resoures on the souths hospitols by T.CS has been hushed up a few times ..with complaince to U.N and E.U protocol ..emergency services and solution planning requires us to predict and invest in these services ....

i fail to accept a solution like this ... BRITAIN suffered the most and with similar issues when we opened up our borders ..immigrants coming over for use of free services ... i do not want cyprus to have the same issues ....

last summer when we rescued the lives of thousands of lebanese refugees ...it showed us for what are caring lovign people ...but surely it is time to get £££ from the illegal state ... .E.U gives us resources and £ for southern cyprus population ...and a small token for the northern visitors/free loaders ...enough is enough ...
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:22 pm

Zan,

If one of my posts gave the impression that I did not want people to cross over then it is due to my not expressing myself clearly. I contrasted the freedom of the Turkish Cypriots to work and carry out business in the south, with the total ban on any financial dealings in the north. This and other things show the policy of exclusion practiced in the north against everyone non Turkish.

Hospital treatment and turning health care into a business goes beyond the parameters of the Cyprus Problem. Turning the fninancial screws on someone at a time when he is at his weakest is not business, it is not even capitalism. A good capitalist makes sure his customers are healthy so they can cosume more. Turning private health care into a virtual monopoly, and this is what Sener Levent alleges in his article, borders on blackmail. The treatment option in the hospitals of the Republic is an antidote to blackmail. The situation, in my opinion at least, goes beyond politics.
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Postby zan » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:29 pm

Nikitas wrote:Zan,

If one of my posts gave the impression that I did not want people to cross over then it is due to my not expressing myself clearly. I contrasted the freedom of the Turkish Cypriots to work and carry out business in the south, with the total ban on any financial dealings in the north. This and other things show the policy of exclusion practiced in the north against everyone non Turkish.

Hospital treatment and turning health care into a business goes beyond the parameters of the Cyprus Problem. Turning the fninancial screws on someone at a time when he is at his weakest is not business, it is not even capitalism. A good capitalist makes sure his customers are healthy so they can cosume more. Turning private health care into a virtual monopoly, and this is what Sener Levent alleges in his article, borders on blackmail. The treatment option in the hospitals of the Republic is an antidote to blackmail. The situation, in my opinion at least, goes beyond politics.


Then I am afraid you are not reading the situation properly. This is a political decision and if someone, as is the case every time no matter what side of the border you are on, makes a few quid then it is second to the politics. This sort of tit for tat political spin has been going on for years. This is just another part of it. If no solution then we are independent that is the underlying factor. It pulls the carpet from under the "RoCs" feet. They use the health issue, which they have no choice in offering by the way, to say how much they are helping the TCs and the TCs react thus. Serious but not if you see what I mean.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:19 am

It seems Talat finally realized that by sticking to the AnaN pLAN WILL NOT bring out a solution.
At last he realized that it is not only the GCs who will loose in case partition is solidified, but first the TCs themselves.
At last he realized the settlers are not going to stay idle for ever, and very soon they will take over, BOTH politically and socio-economically.
The Islamic capital is already coming in the occupied.
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