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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:14 am

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GOOD POINT BRO ....but then you can take your CYPRIOT FLAG ... OF COURSE YOU CAN ..BECAUSE WHEN I WAS STANDING IN THE NORTH BANK WE USE TO ..AND WE HAD CYP FLAGS WITH THE GOONER CANON ..

(also i have been to martial arts events and both flags flew next to one another ,,,with no problem ...)


...and the Cyprus flag is a recognised state - as is Turkey....not 'Northern Cyprus'.

Did these martial arts events recognise the 'TRNC' as a territory?


not really ...more that fact that the nationality of each fighter is recognised ....if you live in the U.K ..which i think you do ...check www.cagerage.tv ... their are 3 turk cyps on the programs

like i said ...sports for me is exempt .....sports can bring peace ..as nelson mandela said ....
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:25 am

Sports can bring peace but recognising the 'TRNC' as a country will certainly not bring peace for Cypriots - unless you think that what Turkey has done since 1974 is fine.

Also remember Nelson Mandela snubbed some kind of Turkish award once because of their human right abuses and dealing arms to the apparthaid government of South Africa. Any guy that thinks highly of Nelson Mandela must also think highly of EOKA, because his ANC party used the same tactics for liberation as EOKA did.

Cage Rage is a joke anyway and not a martial art but a sport. Any event which restricts you in your fighting style is a sport. The fighters techniques are quite poor too - like UFC...which is shite. I could go to Cage Rage with a flag and say i hail from the Republic of Haringey and they would probably list me as coming from Haringey.
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:36 am

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:Sports can bring peace but recognising the 'TRNC' as a country will certainly not bring peace for Cypriots - unless you think that what Turkey has done since 1974 is fine.

Also remember Nelson Mandela snubbed some kind of Turkish award once because of their human right abuses and dealing arms to the apparthaid government of South Africa. Any guy that thinks highly of Nelson Mandela must also think highly of EOKA, because his ANC party used the same tactics for liberation as EOKA did.

Cage Rage is a joke anyway and not a martial art but a sport. Any event which restricts you in your fighting style is a sport. The fighters techniques are quite poor too - like UFC...which is shite. I could go to Cage Rage with a flag and say i hail from the Republic of Haringey and they would probably list me as coming from Haringey.



bro i am wing chun exponent ...and i have 10 years of thai and brazillian ju jitsu expertise .. i am also a milltary instructor (C.Q.C KRAV MAGA )

UFC AND PRIDE ETC ARE BRILLIANT ..THEY SHOWED UP ALL THE SHIT ARTS .... I LOVE WING CHUN ...BUT I THINK MOST OF KUNG FUS ARE FINISHED ..I WAS IN HONG KONG AND ITS ALL CHANGE NOW

CAGE RAGE IS GOOD ...WHAT ART ARE YOU INTO ... ?

I think some promotions allow for TRNC ...ITS £££ TO THEM ...

I MET NELSON IN 2001 ...I HUGGED HIM AND THANKED HIM FOR HIS FIGHT AND DETERMINATION ...HE HUG ME ...AND I EMAIL ME NOW AND AGAIN ...

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT HE DID ?
YOU WILL CRUCIFY ME FOR THIS I NOW ...BUT ...civil war happens ..you cannot stop it ...one mans terroriist is another mans freedom fighter ...every one is right and wrong ...

trust me i know i ...as i said in other posts i went to KOSOVO ..i get daily reports ....trust me bro

we dont want cyprus to go that way ....

that is why i reject all U.N resolutions and i to be honest ... dont want a solution that puts my people in a dangerous position ...

i persoanly believe ...this will happen ....another kosovo......

even the U.N believe this ..hence they are recruited Croatian police officers to patrol our Green line .... :wink:

many scoff at my info on this forum ..but i know my stufff
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:59 am

UFC AND PRIDE ETC ARE BRILLIANT ..THEY SHOWED UP ALL THE SHIT ARTS .... I LOVE WING CHUN ...BUT I THINK MOST OF KUNG FUS ARE FINISHED ..I WAS IN HONG KONG AND ITS ALL CHANGE NOW


You cant fight Wing Chun in UFC because you have to wear gloves and are limited in what strikes you can do. So a Wing Chun man cant fight in UFC. Im trying to go to Hong Kong in 2008 with my martial arts school so i'll let you know. But watching UFC, there technique seems rushed and you arent going to fight UFC or rub up on another man, roll on the floor, in the street.

CAGE RAGE IS GOOD ...WHAT ART ARE YOU INTO ... ?


Wing Chun and trying to master one art. I dont think you can truly master more than one art - you can get thru all its syllabuses yes tho. (i stress the word TRY - i am not trying to say im Yip Man lol). Thats why i dont rate Cage Rage / UFc etc, they are sports and wear gloves etc.


I think some promotions allow for TRNC ...ITS £££ TO THEM ...


Well money and morals are two different things.

I MET NELSON IN 2001 ...I HUGGED HIM AND THANKED HIM FOR HIS FIGHT AND DETERMINATION ...HE HUG ME ...AND I EMAIL ME NOW AND AGAIN ...

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT HE DID ?
YOU WILL CRUCIFY ME FOR THIS I NOW ...BUT ...civil war happens ..you cannot stop it ...one mans terroriist is another mans freedom fighter ...every one is right and wrong ...


No there is certainly not anything wrong with what Mandela did...nor EOKA A. One mans terrorist IS another mans freedom fighter yes i agree. Civil war happens but do you agree with what Turkey has done since it first invaded in the summer of 1974?
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:04 am

Anyway, im trying to message you but i cant. I think i know who you are lol...and been meaning to hopefully train with you (if you ARE the guy im thinking of).

If a Wing Chun school under a church in Stoke Newington means anything to ya...get back to me lol.
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Postby DT. » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:38 am

Just the fact that Oranos supports Anorthosis shows to me that you shouldn't listen to a word he says....the fact that he also supports Arsenal shows the need to boot him off this forum :lol:
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Postby halil » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:51 am

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simple question
before 1974 is it true there was a 2 football federation in Cyprus also separated football league.
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Postby halil » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:54 am

oranos64 wrote:i dont see why they blocked the game ...sports and other events should be free of politics ...

also as a arsenal fan ..i have nothing against TRNC flags at the staduim ..it just reflects the nationalities of the locals ....

from what i remember in LONDON ..MOST OF THE GREEK TEAMS HAS TCS playing for them ....in fact i am sure some play in the cyprus KOPA league ... a local greek correct me ... as i only watch ANORTHOSIS ...ANO ANO ANOTHORSIS ...OLE OLE .....HAHHAHAHAA LOVE DOING THAT ...


you are perfectly correct ORONOS64 sports and other events should be free of politics ...
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:02 pm

DT. wrote:Just the fact that Oranos supports Anorthosis shows to me that you shouldn't listen to a word he says....the fact that he also supports Arsenal shows the need to boot him off this forum :lol:


ano ano ano ....kesbai ..is married to my dads cousin ,,,he lived in my house in the U.K for 6 weeks before he wanted to Newcastle ...my family are from famagusta ..my papous team in the 1940s etc was ANO .. i like their style ..

ARSENAL - HIGHBURY IS WHERE I WAS BORN ...i grew up watching them

I LOVED THEIR DO OR DIE ..NEVER GIVE UP STYLE ...

APOEL ...AGHHH ....WELL GOOD LUCK TO ALL ...I LIKE WATCHING FOOTBALL
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:05 pm

halil wrote:.
humanist wrote:it is all based on action and consequece, trnc does not exist, Cyprus's sovereingthy is violated and the RoC is protecting its interests.

simple question
before 1974 is it true there was a 2 football federation in Cyprus also separated football league.


I have no idea ... bro ...but i am glad you agree on the politics free sports events ...some years back in the U.K LONDON ...HAD CYPRUS GREEK VERSUS CYPRUS TURKISH LEAGUES ..YES THERE WAS VIOLENCE ...SOME FIGHTING

TO FAIR ..THE TURKISH CYP TEAM WAS BEATER POST 1997 ..PRE THAT DATE ..OMONIA AND APOEL BATTERED THEM IN FOOTIE ...

SPORTS MAKE A MAN AND WOMAN
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