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Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:13 am

oranos64 wrote:i dont see why they blocked the game ...sports and other events should be free of politics ...

Sports today something else tomorrow... can't you see the drift?
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:31 am

Get Real! wrote:
oranos64 wrote:i dont see why they blocked the game ...sports and other events should be free of politics ...

Sports today something else tomorrow... can't you see the drift?


Go on GR, put the boot in mate :lol:

Bananiot for president. :wink:
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:38 am

Get Real! wrote:
oranos64 wrote:i dont see why they blocked the game ...sports and other events should be free of politics ...

Sports today something else tomorrow... can't you see the drift?


NO I CANT ... I HAVE MATES WHO ARE TCS ...THEY FIGHT IN MMA ,K1 ..i support them ..hell i even have TCS students in ENGLAND who call me to thank me ...

sports are nothing to do with politics ....football ,wrestling

heck i am playing a island wide combat sports event ...so if KOA ...OR ANYONE ELSE ..REARS THEIR ASS ...IM GONER HAVE TO SLAP THEM DOWN .....

FREEDOM TO TRAIN ....LIVE TO LIVE ...
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:38 am

MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
oranos64 wrote:i dont see why they blocked the game ...sports and other events should be free of politics ...

Sports today something else tomorrow... can't you see the drift?


Go on GR, put the boot in mate :lol:

Bananiot for president. :wink:

Am I really? Here's two quotes from another forum...

cypezokyli wrote:somehow they have confused the targets, and instead of the target being a solution, the target has become the non-recognition of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus".

GR wrote:Today it is possible to talk about a potential “solution” to the Cyprus problem because the Republic of Cyprus has successfully kept the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” unrecognized. Had that not been achieved then nobody would be talking about any kind of “reunion” today.

One can therefore easily conclude that the deprivation of the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” is a principal ingredient to the preservation of the contiguousness of Cypriot territory.
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:40 am

also as a arsenal fan ..i have nothing against TRNC flags at the staduim ..it just reflects the nationalities of the locals ....


Would you still like the flag of the northern Cyprus illegal occupation hung next to a Turkish one with an image of Ataturk in the corner? Because it was. The same guy who hung the flags was also a member of Embargoed.

Remember there are a LOT of Cypriot Arsenal fans who go to the games and many are refugees of the Turkish invasion. The 'TRNC' flag is not just a state flag, it represents an illegal entity born from the ethnic cleansing of many people who are AT those Arsenal matches. Why should those Cypriot Arsenal fans put up with such a blatent brunt of nationalism with symbols that are deemed to represent something illegal by the ECHR and international community? They dont go to football matches to be reminded of politics. If the British National Party symbols (which is a party LESS extreme than those incharge of the 'TRNC / Northern Cyprus'), or the Swastika is not allowed at the ground...then why should the 'TRNC / Northern Cyprus' flag be allowed????
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:50 am

Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
oranos64 wrote:i dont see why they blocked the game ...sports and other events should be free of politics ...

Sports today something else tomorrow... can't you see the drift?


Go on GR, put the boot in mate :lol:

Bananiot for president. :wink:

Am I really? Here's two quotes from another forum...

cypezokyli wrote:somehow they have confused the targets, and instead of the target being a solution, the target has become the non-recognition of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus".

GR wrote:Today it is possible to talk about a potential “solution” to the Cyprus problem because the Republic of Cyprus has successfully kept the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” unrecognized. Had that not been achieved then nobody would be talking about any kind of “reunion” today.

One can therefore easily conclude that the deprivation of the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” is a principal ingredient to the preservation of the contiguousness of Cypriot territory.


GR,

cypezokyli has hit the nail on the head. Your point is valid to a certain extent. Just a tiny bit of good will from the RoC would go a long way with the TCs. A game of friendly football would not have been the beginning of the end for reunification.

Btw, I really enjoyed our meeting at Flo's. Perhaps we can do it again on my next visit.
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:54 am

If Cetinkaya REALLY wanted to JUST play football, they could have done easily by simply sending a simple fax to the official Cypriot FA that the game was going ahead.

THEY DIDNT and failed in their political minded stunt. I hope this does get a lot of attention because it will make the general public wonder why this 'Northern Cyprus' place doesnt have a national football team.
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Postby oranos64 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:55 am

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
also as a arsenal fan ..i have nothing against TRNC flags at the staduim ..it just reflects the nationalities of the locals ....


Would you still like the flag of the northern Cyprus illegal occupation hung next to a Turkish one with an image of Ataturk in the corner? Because it was. The same guy who hung the flags was also a member of Embargoed.

Remember there are a LOT of Cypriot Arsenal fans who go to the games and many are refugees of the Turkish invasion. The 'TRNC' flag is not just a state flag, it represents an illegal entity born from the ethnic cleansing of many people who are AT those Arsenal matches. Why should those Cypriot Arsenal fans put up with such a blatent brunt of nationalism with symbols that are deemed to represent something illegal by the ECHR and international community? They dont go to football matches to be reminded of politics. If the British National Party symbols (which is a party LESS extreme than those incharge of the 'TRNC / Northern Cyprus'), or the Swastika is not allowed at the ground...then why should the 'TRNC / Northern Cyprus' flag be allowed????



GOOD POINT BRO ....but then you can take your CYPRIOT FLAG ... OF COURSE YOU CAN ..BECAUSE WHEN I WAS STANDING IN THE NORTH BANK WE USE TO ..AND WE HAD CYP FLAGS WITH THE GOONER CANON ..

(also i have been to martial arts events and both flags flew next to one another ,,,with no problem ...)

HENCE ARSENAL BANNED ALL NATIONAL FLAGS EXCEPT ENGLANDS ...AND CELTICS ...

by the way why do cypriot fans of bagahdis whatever his tennis name is ...take the flag there ...

he isnt full greek cyp and he lives in france ... just an excuse to sell tennis rackets

serioulsy whilst im on the roll ...whats with all the tennis courts in cyprus ...we need parks for kids to play in ..not GAY tennis courts ...

i didnt even know men played tennis till i saw him ...

no wher was i ... yeah ... ban flags from football ,especially in cyprus ...
no more red commie flags and no greek flags ...

dream a dream ....
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:03 am

GOOD POINT BRO ....but then you can take your CYPRIOT FLAG ... OF COURSE YOU CAN ..BECAUSE WHEN I WAS STANDING IN THE NORTH BANK WE USE TO ..AND WE HAD CYP FLAGS WITH THE GOONER CANON ..

(also i have been to martial arts events and both flags flew next to one another ,,,with no problem ...)


...and the Cyprus flag is a recognised state - as is Turkey....not 'Northern Cyprus'.

Did these martial arts events recognise the 'TRNC' as a territory?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:07 am

MR-from-NG wrote:GR,

cypezokyli has hit the nail on the head. Your point is valid to a certain extent. Just a tiny bit of good will from the RoC would go a long way with the TCs. A game of friendly football would not have been the beginning of the end for reunification.

Problem is, it’s not the average TC the RoC has to confront every day but Turkish expansionism aided by TC leaders hell bent on legitimizing something we unwaveringly object to for obvious reasons.

We therefore expect those TC compatriots that are in support of a contiguous Cyprus to understand and support this necessary stance and not see it as a threat against them.

Btw, I really enjoyed our meeting at Flo's. Perhaps we can do it again on my next visit.

Likewise! The trend has picked up pace and soon I suspect there will be numerous groups meeting up all over the place... :)
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