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Postby zan » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:02 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
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zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


don't think so....if its there it'll be pumped out

BTW its mostly gas not oil


The USA invaded Iraq to control the oil prices DT, I don't think they are going to pump anything more out to effect an already over inflated price...But I could be wrong.


well if you pump more the over inflated price you mention will be reduced.


Quite...But they have that covered, as I said in my post. :wink:
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Postby DT. » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:03 pm

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


don't think so....if its there it'll be pumped out

BTW its mostly gas not oil


The USA invaded Iraq to control the oil prices DT, I don't think they are going to pump anything more out to effect an already over inflated price...But I could be wrong.


well if you pump more the over inflated price you mention will be reduced.


Quite...But they have that covered, as I said in my post. :wink:


like where?
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Postby zan » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:07 pm

zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


There :shock:

I said that the figures wee over inflated. I did not say that they were not happy with where they were. Someones got to pay for the war but it is a fine balance. They sure as hell will not let China or Russia have it....In the bank...IMO :wink:
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Postby DT. » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:09 pm

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zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


There :shock:

I said that the figures wee over inflated. I did not say that they were not happy with where they were. Someones got to pay for the war but it is a fine balance. They sure as hell will not let China or Russia have it....In the bank...IMO :wink:
i meant where are all these other places they can drill in?

Why won;t they let Chinese companies or russian companies drill it out? are you saying these companies travel the world looking for places to drill and the US doesn;t let them? WHy do they exist as companies then?
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Postby zan » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:12 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


There :shock:

I said that the figures wee over inflated. I did not say that they were not happy with where they were. Someones got to pay for the war but it is a fine balance. They sure as hell will not let China or Russia have it....In the bank...IMO :wink:
i meant where are all these other places they can drill in?

Why won;t they let Chinese companies or russian companies drill it out? are you saying these companies travel the world looking for places to drill and the US doesn;t let them? WHy do they exist as companies then?



Do you remember Iraq at all...Come on DT!!!!! :roll: The big boys in the US control the oil and yyou know that.
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Postby DT. » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:16 pm

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


There :shock:

I said that the figures wee over inflated. I did not say that they were not happy with where they were. Someones got to pay for the war but it is a fine balance. They sure as hell will not let China or Russia have it....In the bank...IMO :wink:
i meant where are all these other places they can drill in?

Why won;t they let Chinese companies or russian companies drill it out? are you saying these companies travel the world looking for places to drill and the US doesn;t let them? WHy do they exist as companies then?



Do you remember Iraq at all...Come on DT!!!!! :roll: The big boys in the US control the oil and yyou know that.

so what do French, Russian and Chinese oil companies do for a living Zan?
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Postby zan » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:23 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
zan wrote:It's in the bank for the USA friends...If they wanted more oil in the system to effect the price of oil then they have a hundred other places to pump more from.....The oil , if any, stays where it is...IMO?


There :shock:

I said that the figures wee over inflated. I did not say that they were not happy with where they were. Someones got to pay for the war but it is a fine balance. They sure as hell will not let China or Russia have it....In the bank...IMO :wink:
i meant where are all these other places they can drill in?

Why won;t they let Chinese companies or russian companies drill it out? are you saying these companies travel the world looking for places to drill and the US doesn;t let them? WHy do they exist as companies then?



Do you remember Iraq at all...Come on DT!!!!! :roll: The big boys in the US control the oil and yyou know that.

so what do French, Russian and Chinese oil companies do for a living Zan?


Get bullied by the USA if they do not do as they are told.......Sanctions.....Trade embargoes.....Extra taxes on imports into the USA...The usual stuff. :wink: :wink: :wink: If they are at all weak then WAR!!!! Don't be so naive DT. Sadam wanted to pump more oil and he also wanted to control 1/3 of the worlds oil by invading Kuwait...It has got niether....
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:40 am

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Pyrpolizer wrote:a)16 of August is not far away. We will see....
Remember the licences for the moment are for exploration.This is a high risk business.
There ill be phase 2 AND phase 3 licences IF the results of these explorations are positive.

b)The number of companies that can pump oil at such a depth are ALREADY known worldwide. They are about 5.

c)Those companies charge 80-90% of the oil cost.... so make your own conclusions.


not really...they pay 10-15 million dollars to see the proposal file and be included in the bid. WHoever wins the bid will use all the proceeds of the oil to make back its initial drilling costs. The split is then usually 90% to state and 10% to the oil company.


Where did you get that figure from?? In the Aegean they asked for 80%. There are cases (oil in deep sea) where even if they get 100% they don't cover their expenses-hence they declare it economically unworthy.

This from Opec

http://www.opec.org/library/FAQs/PetrolIndustry/q9.htm

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Oil exploration can cost tens or hundreds of billions of dollars.
The actual costs depend on such factors as the location of possible oil reserves (i.e. on land or in deep water), how large the oil field is expected to be, how detailed the exploration information must be, and the type and structure of the rock below the ground. Exploration requires careful mapping of the surface in order to locate suitable sites (ie, types of geological structures), deep formation surveys (eg, with two and three-dimensional seismic techniques), and test-drilling. It is not easy to determine a typical cost of such activities.
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Postby bigOz » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:24 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
DT. wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:a)16 of August is not far away. We will see....
Remember the licences for the moment are for exploration.This is a high risk business.
There ill be phase 2 AND phase 3 licences IF the results of these explorations are positive.

b)The number of companies that can pump oil at such a depth are ALREADY known worldwide. They are about 5.

c)Those companies charge 80-90% of the oil cost.... so make your own conclusions.


not really...they pay 10-15 million dollars to see the proposal file and be included in the bid. WHoever wins the bid will use all the proceeds of the oil to make back its initial drilling costs. The split is then usually 90% to state and 10% to the oil company.


Where did you get that figure from?? In the Aegean they asked for 80%. There are cases (oil in deep sea) where even if they get 100% they don't cover their expenses-hence they declare it economically unworthy.

This from Opec

http://www.opec.org/library/FAQs/PetrolIndustry/q9.htm

QUOTE:
Oil exploration can cost tens or hundreds of billions of dollars.
The actual costs depend on such factors as the location of possible oil reserves (i.e. on land or in deep water), how large the oil field is expected to be, how detailed the exploration information must be, and the type and structure of the rock below the ground. Exploration requires careful mapping of the surface in order to locate suitable sites (ie, types of geological structures), deep formation surveys (eg, with two and three-dimensional seismic techniques), and test-drilling. It is not easy to determine a typical cost of such activities.

Not just test drilling, but the overall operational costs once the drilling starts adds to those billions that make the capital investment. If there isn't enough oil to last for a long time to cover those costs and bring in profit it is a NO GO! Hence, it is the long term cost / profit analysis at the end of the day that will make any oil under the earth's crust worth drilling! :D
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Postby GreekForumer » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:11 am

Greek company takes 30% stake in Ocean Rig

22 December 2007 - Issue : 761

Greece’s DryShips Inc, a global provider of marine transportation services for dry bulk cargoes, entered into an agreement to acquire approximately 30.4 percent of the issued and outstanding shares and voting rights in Norway-based drilling contractor Ocean Rig ASA, which owns and operates two ultra-deepwater rigs, for USD 405 million, the company reported.
In separate transactions, DryShips Chairman and CEO George Economou acquired about 4.4 percent of the share capital of Ocean Rig. He said, “Ocean Rig is uniquely positioned to immediately capitalize on the very strong demand for ultra-deepwater (UDW) drilling rigs that is expected to prevail over the next five to 10 years as exploration and production of fossil fuels moves further offshore into deeper waters.
On the back of these strong demand fundamentals, the current limited supply of UDW drilling rigs worldwide is expected to worsen over the next few years, resulting in significantly higher day rates for operators of these assets.”
The Eirik Raude is working in the US Gulf of Mexico under a charter with ExxonMobil that expires in July 2008. The Leiv Eiriksson is en route to the North Sea where it will begin a two-year charter with Shell.
DryShips intends to finance the investment with USD 162 million from cash on hand and the incurrence of USD 243 million in debt. There was no further information on the Greek company’s role in the Norwegian company.

http://www.neurope.eu/articles/81212.php


Primelead Limited (CYP) is the biggest shareholder at 30.4%.
http://www.ocean-rig.com/default.asp?fid=1042

Primelead Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of DryShips Inc.


Ultra-deep water ? Like around Cyprus ?
Food for thought!
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