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[zan]

Don't even like to remember that feeling in the UK VP but I suppose it is an inevitable consequence.

But the table has really turned as GCs not have to deal with a TC administration where the main language is Turkish just our community had to do back in history. Thats why I argue for the right to BBF where people can have the choice to live either north or south and no longer be forced to accept GC or TC administrations against their will.

I remember going to the beach among the hotels with my cousin, in Varosha. It was in the '70's and my cousin asked me to talk in whispers as the GCs didnt like the TCs there. I had put that memory into the deep recesses of my consciousness. Now you have brought it back. Now its a dead /ghost town.

I recall the same while on holiday my uncle would say dont speak Turkish or they will treat us like shit and that we were not allowed on certain beaches. Weird feeling not the dangers are far less but the tables have been turned and the GCs are now tasting just a little of what is was like for us back then and toady have the gaul to deny these cases even took place.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for a Sunday evening conversation.

You all sound like a pack of Turkish grannies smoking dope.

Do you really get milleage out of this kind of mindless diatribe?

Drip, drip, drip goes the Turkish Propaganda Machine. A little oil may not go amiss.

Perhaps next time you ddecide to morph you can come back as "WD40".

My brother got such a smack on the boat they escaped the murdering EOKA thugs on for speaking Turkish. My dad speaks fluent Greek so he was the only one that was allowed to speak. I guess my brother did not understand the rules....

[Chimera]

Don't even like to remember that feeling in the UK VP but I suppose it is an inevitable consequence.

But the table has really turned as GCs not have to deal with a TC administration where the main language is Turkish just our community had to do back in history. Thats why I argue for the right to BBF where people can have the choice to live either north or south and no longer be forced to accept GC or TC administrations against their will.

I remember going to the beach among the hotels with my cousin, in Varosha. It was in the '70's and my cousin asked me to talk in whispers as the GCs didnt like the TCs there. I had put that memory into the deep recesses of my consciousness. Now you have brought it back. Now its a dead /ghost town.

I recall the same while on holiday my uncle would say dont speak Turkish or they will treat us like shit and that we were not allowed on certain beaches. Weird feeling not the dangers are far less but the tables have been turned and the GCs are now tasting just a little of what is was like for us back then and toady have the gaul to deny these cases even took place.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for a Sunday evening conversation.

You all sound like a pack of Turkish grannies smoking dope.

Do you really get milleage out of this kind of mindless diatribe?

Drip, drip, drip goes the Turkish Propaganda Machine. A little oil may not go amiss.

Perhaps next time you ddecide to morph you can come back as "WD40".

My brother got such a smack on the boat they escaped the murdering EOKA thugs on for speaking Turkish. My dad speaks fluent Greek so he was the only one that was allowed to speak. I guess my brother did not understand the rules....

Zan, Zan, I am getting really worried know. Stop all that pathos stuff. Where is Get Real

[humanist]

VP

It was once the TCs who felt threatened by going to beaches populated by GCs where they were made to feel uncomfortale or second class citizens, where they stopped their children from speaking Turkish just in case a GC would find out and treat them badly....Now the table has turned and GCs feel uncomfortable visiting beaches in the north not in the sense that they are threatned by TCs for their safety as we were back then but its that they are now the odd ones out and have to either talk Turkish or English like we would have to do in a united Cyprus. So maybe allowing all Cypriots the choice to whether move south or north would be the best step forward rather than force this uneasiness between the communites.

VP I am not sure whether you are at liberty to coment on such issues. My understanding is that you grew up in London/ UK? So may he information you present here is here say.

Furthermore, VP why so much hate, why so much bigotry towards Greek Speaking Cypriots. This I would like to understand. As to why someone hold so much hate wihin them that wants to constantly undermine any possibility of bringing people together.

Thanks

[Viewpoint]

VP

It was once the TCs who felt threatened by going to beaches populated by GCs where they were made to feel uncomfortale or second class citizens, where they stopped their children from speaking Turkish just in case a GC would find out and treat them badly....Now the table has turned and GCs feel uncomfortable visiting beaches in the north not in the sense that they are threatned by TCs for their safety as we were back then but its that they are now the odd ones out and have to either talk Turkish or English like we would have to do in a united Cyprus. So maybe allowing all Cypriots the choice to whether move south or north would be the best step forward rather than force this uneasiness between the communites.

VP I am not sure whether you are at liberty to coment on such issues. My understanding is that you grew up in London/ UK? So may he information you present here is here say.

Furthermore, VP why so much hate, why so much bigotry towards Greek Speaking Cypriots. This I would like to understand. As to why someone hold so much hate wihin them that wants to constantly undermine any possibility of bringing people together.

Thanks

I regularly visited Cyprus with my family and felt the love of GCs for us...thats why if we should ever decide to unite we need lots of safeguards and a level playing field is the only way forward.

These comments are facts of how we felt at those times should we just forget them? or try to learn and ensure this does not ever happen again?

[humanist]

VP I really do not get your arguments sometimes. I will try too.

I do agree with you on learning and ensuring things do not happen again.

About the lvel playing fields. The way to achieve this is for you guys to accept and return to the 1960's Constitution, regain your seats within the government to be able to negotiate and advocate in a powerful and legitimate way about the rights of Turkish speiNG Cypriots.

I am sure the UN is competend enough to accept this, as an interim measure to begin theprocess for reconciliation. With the provisions that this is temporary measure where the President and vice president can explore other options for a lasting solution.

Without being too disrespectful, pershaps we all need to forget some of the facts that transpired in our lives. Otherwise we become victims of those expereinces and do not allow us to move forward regain our power and create something new. I am sure African Americans (and I be damned if this is the politically correct term used these days, I lost count) have not erased the days of slavery, however, they moved beyond those terrible days. Hence gaining equal rights to other Americans.

No one is saying forget those expereince, but instaed of using them as the reasons not to do something use them as the power to change something.

I stil find your initial post uneasy, but you have your reasons fo that I am sure.

[Piratis]

VP apparently forgets that there was an inter communal conflict at the time, and he again presents things from his one sided viewpoint.

For example he forgot to mention that at the same period if a GC dared to cross into the areas controlled by TCs he would be shot dead on the spot.

Unfortunately this is yet another example of the TC attempt to use their one sided view of a tiny part of history in order to excuse gross crimes that they continue to commit today, like ethnic cleansing against us and the occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus.

On the other hand, we are still trying for reconciliation between the two communities. Just go to any hospital in Nicosia, and there you will see TCs who loudly speak in Turkish while waiting to receive the free treatment paid with our taxes. Even though they occupy our homes using lame excuses like those of VP and we have every right to be mad at them, still nobody bothers them. Unfortunately the TCs instead of making any steps towards reconciliation they continue playing their one sided tune that aims to maintain and increase the hate between the two communities, since this hate is an integral part of their partition aim as they are trying to prove that TCs and GCs can not live together.

[Chimera]

These "laments" all sound like collective amnesia.

The table has turned....old people usually sit and reflect on "the older I get, the better I used to be at running, swimming etc etc"

The older you get Turks, the more you victimise yourselves.

Arise, and take responsibility for the the situation you have chosen, the one that makes you want to keep remembering how awful it used to be.

Methinks you are trying TOO hard, to convince yourselves everything is so much better now.

You are captives of your imaginations and the Turkish army that enslaves you and keeps you so downtrodden you have no place in the world of today.

Oh you poor lamenting old ladies, you must be the only ones that have suffered.

What a Turkish melodrama; are you going to serialise it?
And stop reading those Greek Tragedies of Euripides and Sophocles, they are going to your heads.

[denizaksulu]

Don't even like to remember that feeling in the UK VP but I suppose it is an inevitable consequence.

But the table has really turned as GCs not have to deal with a TC administration where the main language is Turkish just our community had to do back in history. Thats why I argue for the right to BBF where people can have the choice to live either north or south and no longer be forced to accept GC or TC administrations against their will.

I remember going to the beach among the hotels with my cousin, in Varosha. It was in the '70's and my cousin asked me to talk in whispers as the GCs didnt like the TCs there. I had put that memory into the deep recesses of my consciousness. Now you have brought it back. Now its a dead /ghost town.

I recall the same while on holiday my uncle would say dont speak Turkish or they will treat us like shit and that we were not allowed on certain beaches. Weird feeling not the dangers are far less but the tables have been turned and the GCs are now tasting just a little of what is was like for us back then and toady have the gaul to deny these cases even took place.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for a Sunday evening conversation.

You all sound like a pack of Turkish grannies smoking dope.

Do you really get milleage out of this kind of mindless diatribe?

Drip, drip, drip goes the Turkish Propaganda Machine. A little oil may not go amiss.

Perhaps next time you ddecide to morph you can come back as "WD40".

My brother got such a smack on the boat they escaped the murdering EOKA thugs on for speaking Turkish. My dad speaks fluent Greek so he was the only one that was allowed to speak. I guess my brother did not understand the rules....

Zan, Zan, I am getting really worried know. Stop all that pathos stuff. Where is Get Real

You are pathetic. You do not realise that everytime you mention the two letters G and R you are dropping yourself into a deeper hole. Its laughable. Keep on GetReal. I know you will not surrender till you die. Well, so be it.

[zan]

VP apparently forgets that there was an inter communal conflict at the time, and he again presents things from his one sided viewpoint.

For example he forgot to mention that at the same period if a GC dared to cross into the areas controlled by TCs he would be shot dead on the spot.

Unfortunately this is yet another example of the TC attempt to use their one sided view of a tiny part of history in order to excuse gross crimes that they continue to commit today, like ethnic cleansing against us and the occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus.

On the other hand, we are still trying for reconciliation between the two communities. Just go to any hospital in Nicosia, and there you will see TCs who loudly speak in Turkish while waiting to receive the free treatment paid with our taxes. Even though they occupy our homes using lame excuses like those of VP and we have every right to be mad at them, still nobody bothers them. Unfortunately the TCs instead of making any steps towards reconciliation they continue playing their one sided tune that aims to maintain and increase the hate between the two communities, since this hate is an integral part of their partition aim as they are trying to prove that TCs and GCs can not live together.

Lift the Embargoes and we will gladly contribute to the economy of the EU that only you get the benefits from. Stop the siege and see what we are capable of and then you can stop complaining...Oh I forgot... that would not help your cause would it. Under siege for nearly 50 years and YOU complain...do us a favour.

[denizaksulu]

VP apparently forgets that there was an inter communal conflict at the time, and he again presents things from his one sided viewpoint.

For example he forgot to mention that at the same period if a GC dared to cross into the areas controlled by TCs he would be shot dead on the spot.

Unfortunately this is yet another example of the TC attempt to use their one sided view of a tiny part of history in order to excuse gross crimes that they continue to commit today, like ethnic cleansing against us and the occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus.

On the other hand, we are still trying for reconciliation between the two communities. Just go to any hospital in Nicosia, and there you will see TCs who loudly speak in Turkish while waiting to receive the free treatment paid with our taxes. Even though they occupy our homes using lame excuses like those of VP and we have every right to be mad at them, still nobody bothers them. Unfortunately the TCs instead of making any steps towards reconciliation they continue playing their one sided tune that aims to maintain and increase the hate between the two communities, since this hate is an integral part of their partition aim as they are trying to prove that TCs and GCs can not live together.

Change the styl....oh why do I bother?

Have a nice day Piratis, I hope you are very happy. Keep it up!
Regards
DA