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[the_snake_and_the_crane]

have to go to the hospital now but I will sort you out when I get back.

That explains a lot about you Zan.

In the meantime sit around with your mix of Black and Greekblack friends and talk in soundbites.

haha...least I have friends. Who are your best friends in thw world? Eric Dayi, Mumin Turk and Hatice?

Don't believe the one about Bruce Lee sticking his hand in a tree every morning to toughen them up....

Actually, the more you punch or hit hard surfaces such as stone or hard wood, the more you will condition your knuckles and effectively toughen them up.

[Pyrpolizer]

And NOTHING you should have got on the first place you seeker of Kulumbaras (i.e people to shaft you dirty pushti)

I thought that meant friend in Greek but seems I made a mistake. Sorry!


O! Theres another sorry from a Turk...That makes two.....And yours is ?????


What the hell was my dad saying when he called me a Gulumbra kafali then

Ok zan sorry for calling you "p...." as well. Sorry to humanist too who might got offended from this conversation.

kumbaros/kumbare means friend

"Kulumbra" is this one,kohlrabi, so what your father said means "wood head" or "stuborn" or "empty head" or something similar.

[bigOz]

... The first major action that can be called ethnic cleansing was the expulsion of Armenians from the Turkish quarter of Nicosia in (if memory serves) February 1964. What did the Turks have to fear from Armenians and Maronites?...

Just in case you have a lapse of amnesia, try finding out about the terrorist activities of the terrosrist group ASALA! They specialised in shooting Turkish diplomats and bombing Turkish embassies all over Europe.

AS for:
[quote]The Turks have built nothing. The picture of Agia Sofia with those four minarets stuck to the edifice is a monument of Turkish culture! [quote]
The best monument right next to Ayasofya is the "BLUE MOSQUE" that stands out as the far better piece of architecturte accepted by the whole of the world!

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

The best monument right next to Ayasofya is the "BLUE MOSQUE" that stands out as the far better piece of architecturte accepted by the whole of the world!

...and where do you think they idea of building a dome in mosques came from?

[zan]

have to go to the hospital now but I will sort you out when I get back.

That explains a lot about you Zan.

Oh No I have given my secret away..I frequent hospitals.

In the meantime sit around with your mix of Black and Greekblack friends and talk in soundbites.

haha...least I have friends. Who are your best friends in thw world? Eric Dayi, Mumin Turk and Hatice?

You forgot to add a na na na na na to that big boy

Don't believe the one about Bruce Lee sticking his hand in a tree every morning to toughen them up....

Actually, the more you punch or hit hard surfaces such as stone or hard wood, the more you will condition your knuckles and effectively toughen them up.
And there you have it
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[zan]

The best monument right next to Ayasofya is the "BLUE MOSQUE" that stands out as the far better piece of architecturte accepted by the whole of the world!

...and where do you think they idea of building a dome in mosques came from?

Jamaica

[Nikitas]

Big Oz, in 1964 the Armenians of Nicosia were identified as being responsible for the actions that ASALA would carry out ten years later and that is why you imply they were kicked out of their homes? The gunmen who kicked them out at gunpoint knew what was to follow ten years later, they were prophets or what! And the Maronites from northern Cyprus, what great misdeed did they do or are planning to do in the future and they found themselves excluded from their properties and villages?

Nothing wrong with being pro your national identity. But some things are really unjustifiable anyway you analyse them. The treatment of the smaller communities of Cyprus by the Turkish Cypriot community is inexcusable. One would expect from a minority that complains of being persecuted to have more compassion for other, smaller minorities.

And Zan,

The Ottomans treated their subjects as tax payers and little else. The Ottoman system has been called a system of bening neglect, hence the lack of great public works and monuments. Travel a little in the former Ottoman empire and you will see what I mean. One would expect of an empire that succeded the Arabs and the Byzantines to outdo them in culture and creativity, but nothing like that happened. While the rest of the Mediterranean world came out of the Middle Ages what comparable strides were made in the Ottoman world?

Conquest is not creation. Wealth of all sorts is created, it can never be conquered.

[zan]

Big Oz, in 1964 the Armenians of Nicosia were identified as being responsible for the actions that ASALA would carry out ten years later and that is why you imply they were kicked out of their homes? The gunmen who kicked them out at gunpoint knew what was to follow ten years later, they were prophets or what! And the Maronites from northern Cyprus, what great misdeed did they do or are planning to do in the future and they found themselves excluded from their properties and villages?

Nothing wrong with being pro your national identity. But some things are really unjustifiable anyway you analyse them. The treatment of the smaller communities of Cyprus by the Turkish Cypriot community is inexcusable. One would expect from a minority that complains of being persecuted to have more compassion for other, smaller minorities.

And Zan,

The Ottomans treated their subjects as tax payers and little else. The Ottoman system has been called a system of bening neglect, hence the lack of great public works and monuments. Travel a little in the former Ottoman empire and you will see what I mean. One would expect of an empire that succeded the Arabs and the Byzantines to outdo them in culture and creativity, but nothing like that happened. While the rest of the Mediterranean world came out of the Middle Ages what comparable strides were made in the Ottoman world?

Conquest is not creation. Wealth of all sorts is created, it can never be conquered.

Just look around you in the region Nikitas from one end of the old empire to the other you will see a mixture of cultures in music food traditions and people. From that I would say that there was a great trade line and a successful era in which everything the Ottomans had under their rule was allowed to flourish. I will take the Greek example, just as that an example, and say that what ever and who ever they had under their rule soon became Greek. The fact that all the other groups flourished and carried on with their cultures and buildings and religions must give some credit to them. They just did not claim it as their own.