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Postby zan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:37 pm

humanist wrote:the snakeand the carane
what a gay lame reply. what does that mean? lol


You say that as if gay is an insult. pls try to refraim from using homophobic comments, thank you.


Didn't you know...Gay people are hated by Jamaican people in general.
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Postby T_C » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:41 pm

zan wrote:
humanist wrote:the snakeand the carane
what a gay lame reply. what does that mean? lol


You say that as if gay is an insult. pls try to refraim from using homophobic comments, thank you.


Didn't you know...Gay people are hated by Jamaican people in general.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: if not thank you, at least a "well done"

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:48 pm

zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:May 2004 Cyprus joined the European Union and Cypriots on both sides of the fence celebrated.

BUT, since that time there has not been one expression of congratulations from the Turkish Cypriot side, nor any act of remembrance for the Cypriot diplomat who worked day and night for ten years to put is into the European Union- the late Yannos Kranidiotis.

Not a thank you, no one ever expected that, just a well done. And not one minor street or village square in the north was named after him, he was after all a Cypriot. No sir, the Turkish Cypriot side is not prone to acts of congratulation and less so to acts of gratitude no matter how well deserved they may be. The whole thing was treated as an assumed right by them.

One can review the history of the island since 1878 and can see similar acts of ingratitude. Since the green line opened thousands of TCs come over to the south to work, they get full pension benefits, access to social welfare but still, not a word of appreciation. These are the people we are supposedly going into partnership with in a federal state!

Are we kidding ourselves?


Thank you for going into the Eu without us and performing an illegal act under the auspices of a de facto government.

Thank you for letting us work to put bread on the table after years of holding us under siege and then only when there was pressure put on you to do so.

As far as benefits go you are now in the EU and therefore they are EU benefits and not from you.

A special thanks goes to the world press that arrived in Cyprus in 1963, after Makarios and his henchmen tried to cut out all the reports coming out of Cyprus so that he could carry on killing us. Without the world press we would not be here to thank you. Thank you!!!


Many thanks to the schizos too. :P
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Postby T_C » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:50 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:the snakeand the carane
what a gay lame reply. what does that mean? lol


You say that as if gay is an insult. pls try to refraim from using homophobic comments, thank you.


Didn't you know...Gay people are hated by Jamaican people in general.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


By the way humanist I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at zan implying that snake was a Jamaican... :)
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:56 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:the snakeand the carane
what a gay lame reply. what does that mean? lol


You say that as if gay is an insult. pls try to refraim from using homophobic comments, thank you.


Didn't you know...Gay people are hated by Jamaican people in general.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


By the way humanist I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at zan implying that snake was a Jamaican... :)



HE seems to think he is so who am I to doubt him.....DJ snake from the Norf Lundun possy!!!!! Every body say YO! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:20 am

I guess that living in the EU for several decades has distorted my judgement on this and I am pro EU. But there are other issues in the mix. It is doubtful that countries like Greece would have had an environmental policy without the compulsion brought about by EU directives and regulations. Right now Cyprus would not have an environmental plan for areas like Akamas, Larnace salt lake etc. without the EU pushing.

If the EU is an empire, as some here have said, then is is the first empire in history without a ruler and where the subject states join voluntarily.

As for the basic issue, the work of one lone Cypriot who put us in Europe, the point has been sidestepped altogether. Are you all so embarassed that a Cypriot managed to negotiate and convince all the opponents, and there were many, that Cyprus could make it in Europe? Are we really that small minded on this island we cannot honor the memory of a benefactor because he happens to be born on the "other side"? If that is accurate then we deserve what we get.
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:27 am

Nikitas wrote:I guess that living in the EU for several decades has distorted my judgement on this and I am pro EU. But there are other issues in the mix. It is doubtful that countries like Greece would have had an environmental policy without the compulsion brought about by EU directives and regulations. Right now Cyprus would not have an environmental plan for areas like Akamas, Larnace salt lake etc. without the EU pushing.

If the EU is an empire, as some here have said, then is is the first empire in history without a ruler and where the subject states join voluntarily.

As for the basic issue, the work of one lone Cypriot who put us in Europe, the point has been sidestepped altogether. Are you all so embarassed that a Cypriot managed to negotiate and convince all the opponents, and there were many, that Cyprus could make it in Europe? Are we really that small minded on this island we cannot honor the memory of a benefactor because he happens to be born on the "other side"? If that is accurate then we deserve what we get.



Hurrah for the man but are you serious about our (TCs) rejoicing about the EU???
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:58 am

Now there is an interesting point of view I must admit I had not thought about Zan.

The night that Cyprus was officially accepted in the EU, (think it was May 1 2004, local and international TV channels showed Turkish Cypriots in Nicosia rejoicing. Since then there have been continuing contacts with EU official in Cyprus and at Brussels. Therefore the overall picture we are getting is that the Turkish Cypriot community as a whole, and most of its political leaders approve and wlecome EU status. Are you saying that this impression is wrong and that the majority of Turkish Cypriots would rather not be in the EU? This is not a rhetorical question, I am genuinely interested to know.

Hypothetically speaking, if there was a two state solution tomorrow, then the Turkish state would opt not to join the EU? If not, then the media are promoting an inaccurate picture and makes you wonder why.
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:12 am

Nikitas wrote:Now there is an interesting point of view I must admit I had not thought about Zan.

The night that Cyprus was officially accepted in the EU, (think it was May 1 2004, local and international TV channels showed Turkish Cypriots in Nicosia rejoicing. Since then there have been continuing contacts with EU official in Cyprus and at Brussels. Therefore the overall picture we are getting is that the Turkish Cypriot community as a whole, and most of its political leaders approve and wlecome EU status. Are you saying that this impression is wrong and that the majority of Turkish Cypriots would rather not be in the EU? This is not a rhetorical question, I am genuinely interested to know.

Hypothetically speaking, if there was a two state solution tomorrow, then the Turkish state would opt not to join the EU? If not, then the media are promoting an inaccurate picture and makes you wonder why.



We were promised a lot from the EU Nikitas and rejoicing at the time of promises was right. They have come up with next to nothing on those promises and the lifting of embargoes is one point in which they have let us down.

The two state system is another thing all together and we would then be applying for our own.
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Postby DT. » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:14 am

zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Now there is an interesting point of view I must admit I had not thought about Zan.

The night that Cyprus was officially accepted in the EU, (think it was May 1 2004, local and international TV channels showed Turkish Cypriots in Nicosia rejoicing. Since then there have been continuing contacts with EU official in Cyprus and at Brussels. Therefore the overall picture we are getting is that the Turkish Cypriot community as a whole, and most of its political leaders approve and wlecome EU status. Are you saying that this impression is wrong and that the majority of Turkish Cypriots would rather not be in the EU? This is not a rhetorical question, I am genuinely interested to know.

Hypothetically speaking, if there was a two state solution tomorrow, then the Turkish state would opt not to join the EU? If not, then the media are promoting an inaccurate picture and makes you wonder why.



We were promised a lot from the EU Nikitas and rejoicing at the time of promises was right. They have come up with next to nothing on those promises and the lifting of embargoes is one point in which they have let us down.

The two state system is another thing all together and we would then be applying for our own.


you wouldn;t have to mate...knowing the EU's feelings towards Turks we signed up the whole island just in case. :wink:
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