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Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:29 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Get Real! wrote: Something tells me that instead of "derives" you should've used "is derived" but anyway back on-topic...


"Something tells me..."? Lame. I would think a "purveyor of fine messages" could do better than that. If you really wanted to stick it to me, you might have criticized me for not preceding "whiskey" with "the word" or otherwise not surrounding it with quotation marks. ;)

At almost two in the morning and having consumed plenty of alcohol I'm definitely not interested in sticking anything to you and happily admit that my lameness IS DERIVED from the consumption of alcohol... :lol:


Derived IS Wrong. Derives IS Correct. My constant lapse of memory is Not" derived" from regular consumption of alcohol , it Derives from regular consumption of alcohol since it continues deriving , continues detiriorating ! Here is another one. His faith in God DERIVES from , because it continues to derive from , his early indocrination by his parents !! When he dies then refereing to his faith one would then say His faith derived !!

There is nothing “past continuous” in the original sentence…

“Whiskey derives from a Gaelic term”

In order for something to be considered “continuous” there needs to be continuous action as in the case of a verb such as...

“My body’s fatiguing derives from hard work”

The following example though uses a noun and is therefore better represented as…

“My fatigue is derived from hard work”

Regards, GR.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:42 pm

Could I say my incredibly good looks and intelligence derives from being conceited or derived as a result of being conceited . Work this one out !
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Postby Damsi » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:41 pm

No because no matter how hard you try, good looks and intelligence cannot be derived from being conceited, unless an inherent conceit makes you think you are good looking and intelligent, in which case your conceit would be derived from the notion that you are good looking and intelligent :)
Christ I must be really bored today :)
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Postby Shipwreck » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:02 pm

The true muslims are peaceful by nature and help out there poorer neighbours.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:54 pm

Chimera wrote:
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Chimera wrote:Organized complexity (matter) can emerge from simple beginings and evolve without the need for a creator (otherwise, back to who created the creator).

Recent studies have found the predominance of a genetic type who "needs to believe" (the types who still feel limbs when removed etc).

So, it's not a matter of choice to believe or otherwise, it as a matter of genetic pre-disposition making you amenable to belief without evidence.

The fact that religion has prevailed for so long was simply that those in power, recognised it for what it was...the tool to mobilise/brainwash the type of person as above who "needs to believe" and hence is easier to convince with any argument (except the one that god does not exist).


You did not. Its on the other shoulder, thats all. :lol: :lol:

Lack of belief in religion usually meant death, which is why the types that prefer evidence-based arguments are in the minority.


F**CK me you can make sense after all GR.....

The usage of created in my post is as you have said here. The product of simple beginnings creating matter. It does not need a creator to apply.


Just Great!

One time I make so much undeniable good, clear sense and get praise from the hard-to-please Zanathustra, I lose the accolades to GetReal! :cry:
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Postby Filitsa » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote: Something tells me that instead of "derives" you should've used "is derived" but anyway back on-topic...


"Something tells me..."? Lame. I would think a "purveyor of fine messages" could do better than that. If you really wanted to stick it to me, you might have criticized me for not preceding "whiskey" with "the word" or otherwise not surrounding it with quotation marks. ;)

At almost two in the morning and having consumed plenty of alcohol I'm definitely not interested in sticking anything to you and happily admit that my lameness IS DERIVED from the consumption of alcohol... :lol:


Damn! Don't make me give you a grammar lesson!

Look:

"Did you know that whiskey is derived from a Gaelic term ... ?"

1. "Whiskey" is the subject of the subordinate clause.
2. "Is" is a linking verb.
3. "Derived" is a predicate adjective describing "whiskey," as in "derived
whiskey."
4. "From a Gaelic term" is an adverbial phrase that describes "derived."

versus ...

"Did you know that whiskey derives from a Gaelic term ... ?"

1. "Whiskey" is the subject of the subordinate clause.
2. "Derives" is an action verb in the present tense.
3. "From a Gaelic term" is an adverbial phrase, modifying "derives."

Both sentences are grammatically correct.

Think of it this way:

Get Real!: From where is "whiskey" derived?
Filitsa: "Whiskey" is derived from a Gaelic term ...

versus ...

Get Real!: From where does "whiskey" derive?
Filitsa: Whiskey derives from the Gaelic term ...

Oh man! I just re-read this, and I sound like a pompous ass! I'm sorry. :oops: I'm going to throw up now .........................................

P.S. Thanks for your help, Miltiades.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:12 am

Filitsa wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Get Real! wrote: Something tells me that instead of "derives" you should've used "is derived" but anyway back on-topic...


"Something tells me..."? Lame. I would think a "purveyor of fine messages" could do better than that. If you really wanted to stick it to me, you might have criticized me for not preceding "whiskey" with "the word" or otherwise not surrounding it with quotation marks. ;)

At almost two in the morning and having consumed plenty of alcohol I'm definitely not interested in sticking anything to you and happily admit that my lameness IS DERIVED from the consumption of alcohol... :lol:


Damn! Don't make me give you a grammar lesson!

Look:

"Did you know that whiskey is derived from a Gaelic term ... ?"

1. "Whiskey" is the subject of the subordinate clause.
2. "Is" is a linking verb.
3. "Derived" is a predicate adjective describing "whiskey," as in "derived
whiskey."
4. "From a Gaelic term" is an adverbial phrase that describes "derived."

versus ...

"Did you know that whiskey derives from a Gaelic term ... ?"

1. "Whiskey" is the subject of the subordinate clause.
2. "Derives" is an action verb in the present tense.
3. "From a Gaelic term" is an adverbial phrase, modifying "derives."

Both sentences are grammatically correct.

Think of it this way:

Get Real!: From where is "whiskey" derived?
Filitsa: "Whiskey" is derived from a Gaelic term ...

versus ...

Get Real!: From where does "whiskey" derive?
Filitsa: Whiskey derives from the Gaelic term ...

Oh man! I just re-read this, and I sound like a pompous ass! I'm sorry. :oops: I'm going to throw up now .......................

My last post to Miltiades explains why you are wrong, and as far as this post of yours is concerned just two words... utter rubbish! :lol:
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Postby Southerner » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:31 am

Shipwreck wrote:The true muslims are peaceful by nature and help out there poorer neighbours.
into heaven just as they have done today in the slaughter of 500 of their neighbours.
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:38 am

Southerner wrote:
Shipwreck wrote:The true muslims are peaceful by nature and help out there poorer neighbours.
into heaven just as they have done today in the slaughter of 500 of their neighbours.


Irish troubles
American civil war
English civil war
Greek civil war
Falklands war
Canadian French/English wars
WW1
WW2

Not a Muslim in sight......nearly.
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Postby Southerner » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:59 am

zan wrote:
Southerner wrote:
Shipwreck wrote:The true muslims are peaceful by nature and help out there poorer neighbours.
into heaven just as they have done today in the slaughter of 500 of their neighbours.


Irish troubles
American civil war
English civil war
Greek civil war
Falklands war
Canadian French/English wars
WW1
WW2

Not a Muslim in sight......nearly.

So now they're making up for lost time

By the way, who did El Lawrence sort out in Arabia
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