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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:35 pm

US gave full backing to Turkish invasion


THE United States gave full blessing to the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, even assuring Turkey that it would "get them a solution involving one third of the island.''

This cynical US involvement is revealed in the latest batch of secret official State Department documents released for publication under the 30-year rule.

The American stand has long been known, but this is the first time that it has been confirmed so completely by an official State Department document.

This is clarified in the very first paragraph of the document which is stamped ``SECRET/EYES ONLY.''

It declares that the only conceivable settlement of the Cyprus problem "will have to rest on a de facto division of the island, whatever the form."

While admitting that the United States ``has the clout'' to prevent the invasion, the document nevertheless advises against doing so "before the fighting stops."

The document is dated August 14, 1974, the exact date of the second massive wave of the Turkish invasion of the island. It is headed: ``Memorandum for the Secretary - Cyprus Actions'' from Helmut Sonnenfeldt, one of the top State Department officials dealing with Greco-Turkish affairs.

The document even includes a map detailing the plan of action of the Turkish invasion force. This is headed ``Map done by the Bureau of Intelligence and Research projecting Turkish moves on Cyprus, August 13, 1974.''

It is worth noting that this plan was the one followed exactly by the Turkish troops, a further proof of the close American involvement in the Turkish invasion planning.

Here is the full text of the document:


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http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default. ... geID=304_1
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Postby Piratis » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:53 pm

There is nothing shocking about this. We knew all along.

Those that say that these facts are supposedly "conspiracy theories" should finally wake up and realize the truth.

What happened to Cyprus is exactly what those that had the power wanted to happen, and the partition was planned and agreed since the late 50s between the English and the Turks.

Cyprus is of great geopolitical importance to them, and those that claim that the important events of Cyprus were determined by the actions of Cypriots couldn't be further from the truth.

Even if we had acted in a perfectly correct way, those that wanted to partition our country could have done it anyways.

Even if there have been mistakes from our side after 1960, the fact is that the excuse for the Turkish invasion was not our mistakes, but the coup that the CIA sponsored Junta of Athens created in Cyprus against our will.

Our fight for liberation should continue as we were never truly liberated from the colonialists and those foreigners that want to rule over us. The struggle is a difficult one, but we will never give up.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:31 pm

america is and was on the side of its interests. and its interest was to avoid greek-turkish war. what happened in cyprus did not bothered them.

there is not enough evidence that the US staged the whole thing, or that it was in the interest of the US to divide cyprus. the only thing that one could accuse the US is why they didnot stop the invasion.

when we post such documents, we need to be sure if they express the official US policy, and if the document sais really what we think it sais :wink:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:25 pm

In the REAL world you will never get such evidence Cypez. All you will get are events that raise suspicion to almost certainty.
For your information even the last chicken in Greece knows that who was goverenment in Greece during the Junta era was the American Embassy who had 2 branches one was the political branch and the other the CIA controlled branch. Even American diplomats were totally in the dark as to how and what decisions the CIA branch of the Americn Embassy in Greece was doing/planning.

The British knew very well to what the 1960 constitution would lead.True there were discussions before that where our Priest wanted Enosis, and they were all (including Turkey) willing to give him Enosis on exchange of dual or tripple partition. The British never bent. Instead of giving us partition they gave us a time bomb that would lead to partition.
The Annan plan was no different. It was exactly the same thing.The only difference it wouldn't last for even 6 months. The first crisis would come 100 days after when Turkey ould start inventing excuses for not returning Famagusta....

It's about time we FORGET about the Anglo-Americans and try our fate elsewhere. Where the oil exploration rights will go that's where we will seek our new fate. Just keep watching... :wink:
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Postby Chimera » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:31 am

In these troubled times indigenous Cypriots should stick together. The special relationship with Greece has to be maintained. We must not let the constant bad-mouthing by the Turks ruin our alliance with Greece. They would love to isolate and weaken us (emulating British divide-and-rule strategy). Their constant harping back to the Junta will be shown as irrelevant, as the real force behind the Junta is revealed.
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Postby T_C » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:47 am

Chimera wrote:In these troubled times indigenous Cypriots should stick together. The special relationship with Greece has to be maintained. We must not let the constant bad-mouthing by the Turks ruin our alliance with Greece. They would love to isolate and weaken us (emulating British divide-and-rule strategy). Their constant harping back to the Junta will be shown as irrelevant, as the real force behind the Junta is revealed.


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Postby Chimera » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:55 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:
Chimera wrote:In these troubled times indigenous Cypriots should stick together. The special relationship with Greece has to be maintained. We must not let the constant bad-mouthing by the Turks ruin our alliance with Greece. They would love to isolate and weaken us (emulating British divide-and-rule strategy). Their constant harping back to the Junta will be shown as irrelevant, as the real force behind the Junta is revealed.


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Oh what kind of species of Turkey is that then? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:02 am

Piratis wrote:There is nothing shocking about this. We knew all along.

Those that say that these facts are supposedly "conspiracy theories" should finally wake up and realize the truth.

What happened to Cyprus is exactly what those that had the power wanted to happen, and the partition was planned and agreed since the late 50s between the English and the Turks.

Cyprus is of great geopolitical importance to them, and those that claim that the important events of Cyprus were determined by the actions of Cypriots couldn't be further from the truth.

Even if we had acted in a perfectly correct way, those that wanted to partition our country could have done it anyways.

Even if there have been mistakes from our side after 1960, the fact is that the excuse for the Turkish invasion was not our mistakes, but the coup that the CIA sponsored Junta of Athens created in Cyprus against our will.

Our fight for liberation should continue as we were never truly liberated from the colonialists and those foreigners that want to rule over us. The struggle is a difficult one, but we will never give up.


You make it sound like everything was honkey dorey during 1963-1974 and the TCs were living in Butlins..never the GCs fault always someone elses..eh Piratis.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:19 am

Chimera wrote:In these troubled times indigenous Cypriots should stick together. The special relationship with Greece has to be maintained. We must not let the constant bad-mouthing by the Turks ruin our alliance with Greece. They would love to isolate and weaken us (emulating British divide-and-rule strategy). Their constant harping back to the Junta will be shown as irrelevant, as the real force behind the Junta is revealed.


Go on...Give us a little peak darlin.....
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Postby Piratis » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:46 am

You make it sound like everything was honkey dorey during 1963-1974 and the TCs were living in Butlins..never the GCs fault always someone elses..eh Piratis.


No. It was not OK but that was the fault of both communities, not just GCs. However the conflict between Cypriots was irrelevant. In fact the bloody conflict between Cypriots had ended in 1968, 6 whole years before the invasion.

The events of 1974 where all created by foreigners and their puppets, and the great great majority of Cypriots had nothing to do with those events apart from that they were victimized.
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