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Postby free_cyprus » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:49 am

the problem of cyprus started in the 50s with the creation of eoka and tmt, by greece and trukey, the zurich agreement sealed teh faite of cyprus to be devided up. lets not beget forgetfulness that turkey and greece are great allies of america and during cold war they helped americ a great deal, also they are part of nato,as for britain under the zurich agreement, if the solution of cyprus is not found or if there is still problems on the island regarding the soo called two communities when in fact there is only one community that is devided byt difrent language and riligion, the sovereight british bases cannot be negotiated in another words they are british, regarding americas backing of turkey to invade cyprus, firstly who sponcered nico sampson emerica with c i a money, if all this is not plain enough for the ordinary reader that the fate of cyprus was decided cordinated and executed for the benfit of outsiders, then we are in serious trouble we always blame this or that turkey or greece or something else, the truth is they were all involved not only they were all involed but they also recruted cypriots to commit crimes agains their own people, this is true facts and we must except these, when we openly debate about all this and when we openly look wider into the real world and who benefited from all this we will be closer to the solution, lets not be like the person who couldnt see the forest for the trees, we must be open minded and realistic about cyprus problem, when we begin to live like cypriots instead of greeks and turks and when we live like one people instead of pointing the way to the soo called motherlands then we will stand more of a change to live in harmony and peace as we should do as is our right, but cyprus problem will never ever be solved as long as you lot continue with this false identity we are greeks and turks, sure we speak the language, so what do we have to fly turkish and greek flags on an island thats been invaded for over 3000 years and ruleb by just about ever power in history, and yet we come out off all that intact as turks and greeks, if this is far as your imagination stretches then we have no chance at all in life to be free cypriots
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:32 am

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The full compliance you mean is different from the full complience we mean.After all it is not Greece the one that is invaded.


And who appointed you a representative of Karamalis?

What I see is that what you care about is Turkish accession to the EU. So veto or no veto, Cyprus or no Cyprus, sorry to destroy your dream, but Turkey will never be part of EU. Better start getting used to the idea.

Europeans simply do not want Turkey in EU and no interests of AngloAmericans and some turkophiles like you can force the Europeans to change their mind.


And who apointed you a representative of Papadopoulos?Be sure you will bow to Greece as you have been always.We sold you out so many times and we shall keep on selling you out if you dont meet our goals.We keep you or sell you out according our interests.

I couldnt care less what backward fascists like you say.I dont give a penny whether Turkey actually gets in or not.Plus the polls in Hyriet and Milliet say that the people of Turkey are the one's not wanting EU.


why is he a fascist? DO you know what a fascist is?
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:32 am

America wants Turkey in and she will go in...If she wants to. The problem with the "RoC" is that it is pinning all its hopes on 50 billion dollars of oil....As they say...A drop in the ocean for America. It will get the oil one way or another and Turkey into the EU to boot. The only way the "RoC" will get any leverage is to offer the oil to Russia. Dangerous game indeed. Makarios played those big boy games before remember.
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:45 am

zan wrote:America wants Turkey in and she will go in...If she wants to. The problem with the "RoC" is that it is pinning all its hopes on 50 billion dollars of oil....As they say...A drop in the ocean for America. It will get the oil one way or another and Turkey into the EU to boot. The only way the "RoC" will get any leverage is to offer the oil to Russia. Dangerous game indeed. Makarios played those big boy games before remember.


DOn't think thats the case. Oil only came into this a couple of months ago and no one really knows what is down there yet anyway. The objectives of the ROC are firmly pinned on the permanency of its international status and the balance it maintains in its alliances within the EU.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:03 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:America wants Turkey in and she will go in...If she wants to. The problem with the "RoC" is that it is pinning all its hopes on 50 billion dollars of oil....As they say...A drop in the ocean for America. It will get the oil one way or another and Turkey into the EU to boot. The only way the "RoC" will get any leverage is to offer the oil to Russia. Dangerous game indeed. Makarios played those big boy games before remember.


DOn't think thats the case. Oil only came into this a couple of months ago and no one really knows what is down there yet anyway. The objectives of the ROC are firmly pinned on the permanency of its international status and the balance it maintains in its alliances within the EU.


We have been hearing about oil in the region for years DT. Gas is already being drawn off as far as I know. The tension and the uncertainty has stopped investment into exploration, on the surface anyway. What do you think Turkey is hoping for when it makes statements like it does. They will scare away any investment again and only America will decide who drills for oil. Only friendly countries need apply. :wink:
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:11 am

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:America wants Turkey in and she will go in...If she wants to. The problem with the "RoC" is that it is pinning all its hopes on 50 billion dollars of oil....As they say...A drop in the ocean for America. It will get the oil one way or another and Turkey into the EU to boot. The only way the "RoC" will get any leverage is to offer the oil to Russia. Dangerous game indeed. Makarios played those big boy games before remember.


DOn't think thats the case. Oil only came into this a couple of months ago and no one really knows what is down there yet anyway. The objectives of the ROC are firmly pinned on the permanency of its international status and the balance it maintains in its alliances within the EU.


We have been hearing about oil in the region for years DT. Gas is already being drawn off as far as I know. The tension and the uncertainty has stopped investment into exploration, on the surface anyway. What do you think Turkey is hoping for when it makes statements like it does. They will scare away any investment again and only America will decide who drills for oil. Only friendly countries need apply. :wink:


French, Russian and US interest companies have applied. WHo's Turkey gonna scare off? France, Russia or the US?
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:22 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:America wants Turkey in and she will go in...If she wants to. The problem with the "RoC" is that it is pinning all its hopes on 50 billion dollars of oil....As they say...A drop in the ocean for America. It will get the oil one way or another and Turkey into the EU to boot. The only way the "RoC" will get any leverage is to offer the oil to Russia. Dangerous game indeed. Makarios played those big boy games before remember.


DOn't think thats the case. Oil only came into this a couple of months ago and no one really knows what is down there yet anyway. The objectives of the ROC are firmly pinned on the permanency of its international status and the balance it maintains in its alliances within the EU.


We have been hearing about oil in the region for years DT. Gas is already being drawn off as far as I know. The tension and the uncertainty has stopped investment into exploration, on the surface anyway. What do you think Turkey is hoping for when it makes statements like it does. They will scare away any investment again and only America will decide who drills for oil. Only friendly countries need apply. :wink:


French, Russian and US interest companies have applied. WHo's Turkey gonna scare off? France, Russia or the US?



Russia...With the help of the US......
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:25 am

SN wrote:Be sure you will bow to Greece as you have been always.We sold you out so many times and we shall keep on selling you out if you dont meet our goals.We keep you or sell you out according our interests.

:shock: You do realise of course that you've just signed your death warrant... I'll deal with you in the evening after the CF meeting.
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Postby DT. » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
SN wrote:Be sure you will bow to Greece as you have been always.We sold you out so many times and we shall keep on selling you out if you dont meet our goals.We keep you or sell you out according our interests.

:shock: You do realise of course that you've just signed your death warrant... I'll deal with you in the evening after the CF meeting.


you're not touching this GR...I was saving this for me. :twisted:
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Postby miltiades » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
SN wrote:Be sure you will bow to Greece as you have been always.We sold you out so many times and we shall keep on selling you out if you dont meet our goals.We keep you or sell you out according our interests.


You may just be right , but hopefully our island will rise to the challenge and become a truly independent nation in spirit just as it is in real terms.We are part of Europe , a member of every international organization and it is time we stood up wholly independent of Greece.
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